World's lightest quad sticks
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I thought that was probably the case.
Do you have a link to a supplier of the tubes you recommend?
@VSS here we go - £137 delivered. I can ask if they'll arrange a discount for everyone that I refer. These are glossy but very easily wet sanded with 600 grit to a low reflective matte. I'll send a message to see if I can source matte tubes somewhere.
14mm (12mm) Woven Finish Carbon Fibre Tube; 1m, 2m - Easy Composites
14mm (12mm) Woven Finish Carbon Fibre Tube; 1m, 2m - Easy Composites
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Milk no sugar please
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excellent work as always Rory
These don't do much more than the standard pauperflex, but they're infinitely cooler!Jesus Rory may just have to bin the last lot I got to venture down the carbon fibre route now. Needs must and all the gear no idea
They feel so nice in the hand - you know where I am if you want a look
Rbr1401
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Oh godThese don't do much more than the standard pauperflex, but they're infinitely cooler!
They feel so nice in the hand - you know where I am if you want a look
jthyttin
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Sorry for OT, but why so long? Isn't it counterproductive, having to spread them too far and introduce unnecessary flex?
BTW cutting carbon tube you ideally need thin abrasive disc in angle grinder or similar. I cut carbon arrows with readymade "thing" and it's basically a miniature grinder with adjustable holder for arrow. It would be best to have the grinder stationary and spin the tube while cutting. In case somebody is going to cut the tubes mentioned and was not sure on method.
They're not 6ft3 high - they're 1715mm high IIRC to suit a 6ft3 person - but can be infinitely adjusted for user preference if you care to read the assembly instructions elsewhere on this site. Not sure what flex you're on about - carbon fibre tubes are very stiff and the weight of a rifle and person leaning on them is inconsequential.
A 32t hacksaw works very well for cutting the tube and is more accessible for most people - produces a nice clean cut if you take your time, using fastish strokes and light pressure. It's easy to dress the edges with a file and sandpaper to get the ends perfectly square.
With most things I do, as with this stick design and manufacture, I like to keep things simple.
jthyttin
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I see. I did follow the original thread for page or two in the beginning but since it's of no consecuence to me I dropped off.
To the second point, sorry but it's pure physics, the wider you spread them the more flex you introduce. Yes carbon is stiffer than aluminium and aluminium is stiffer than some plastics that are used in some other products, but the flex / bounce is still there. Don't have working experience but as hobbyist use dozens of meters of carbon tubing daily/weekly (use as in "use products made of carbon tubing", not "make stuff out of carbon tubing").
Regarding weight, since you asked in OP, 4 Stable Sticks seem to have dropped their single piece carbon sticks but the Ultimate Carbon is 22oz and packs into 65cm. The single piece was lighter, but don't remember how much. Price is somewhat comparable. They also sell spare parts so theoretically you could build single piece. I think the tubing thickness has major impact, if somebody wants "world's lightest" for the sake of it.
Not all carbon fibre is made equal. I have used carbon quad sticks for years now and while there is a small amount of flex, it is negligible for the intended application. Nobody is hanging their entire body weight off these things.
One of my many side hustles is as a golf club builder. I cut down many driver/fairway shafts which I imagine are far closer to the product talked about here than arrows and I have no issue with using a hacksaw and some skill. The biggest issue is making sure you wear respirtory protection to guard against carbon dust/filings.
Seems to me like the product available here is cheaper and lighter than competitors. I would bet a good amount of money that commercial stick producers might not be using the best carbon fibre available and/or have opted for lower cost items to increase profitability. So this solution offers more custom opportunities and the potential to end up with a better system, more so for longevity.
I like my current sticks and they work fine so I will not be changing them but the reality is they are £300 to buy and weigh nearly 200g more than what are available here. The benefits are clear to anyone born with the joy of vision.
Hi they do. - they open to a 120deg included angle. of legs Only problem is getting the feet anchored and not slippng at that shallow angle.
jthyttin
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Not wanting to spoil your thread, but since you must be referring to the 4 Stable Sticks Ultimate Carbon I mentioned, I must correct the info.
They are in stock and listed £180 at Swillington's and close to that in some other places (quick web search in .uk TLD). While some like Emmett and Stone have clear copy/paste errors like this, the manufacturer lists them at 22oz which is 30-40g more than in your OP. And they pack into 65cm and come with warranty. Sorry, I'm a sucker for facts.
There is no must whatsoever. You assume incorrectly.
You can safely assume that I can't be arsed with your arrogance though.
nun_hunter
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Out of interest have you done a comparison on strength between these carbon legs and the standard garden canes? How much additional force does it take to bend/break them?
I ask because I used to use the garden canes but after bending numerous pairs using them to steady myself getting over fences or down steep banks I got some Spartan sticks. Much more expensive but also strong enough to use as a tripod for gralloching a roe or tying a rope to and dragging a fallow behind with two people pulling.
I ask because I used to use the garden canes but after bending numerous pairs using them to steady myself getting over fences or down steep banks I got some Spartan sticks. Much more expensive but also strong enough to use as a tripod for gralloching a roe or tying a rope to and dragging a fallow behind with two people pulling.
Please go away, you're spoiling my thread - you contribute nothing useful with any of your disruptive posts on the SD. I feel that my sticks are considerable better than the ones that you keep quoting, but people are free to choose what they like.
I'll have a go at attaching a scale tonight. The carbon ones are much stiffer than the b&q ones. Light and compact was my goal. If I beefed up the carbon tube diameter etc to rival the weight of the Spartan sticks then I'd be able to match their strength.
I think I'd probably be able to hang a couple of medium size roe on the end of the carbon sticks carried over my shoulder.
