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Bavarianbrit

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Here I am at nearly 74 and I have just joined the local hunting horn group. I was as a 13y/o in the Coventry School of Music playing a trumpet but what remains in my head time will tell. They were very welcoming to me and the pub that they do it in is a hunters paradise, the walls are dripping with trophies as the pub owner now in his 80s was the local hunter. The horn I will be using is a Fürst -Pless that I bought new 20 years ago.
Blowing the hunting horn with its hunting guidance and dead signals is a part of hunting customs. Hunting horn signals can be heard from far away in forests and fields and are still used today for communication, for example during group hunts. With the help of hunting signals, for example, the beginning and end of a hunt are announced, the beaters are encouraged and the hunters, beaters and dogs are called together. With the dead signal for a hunted piece of game, the hunter pays homage to the hunted game and thanks its creator for the hunting success. In addition, hunting horn signals shape many hunters' events in the hunting and private sectors.

Blowing hunting horns is an old cultural asset that is still maintained today and used in practical hunting operations.

People recognized early on that dull sounds could be produced with the buffalo or ox horn. For this purpose, the tip of the animal horn was sawn off and drilled out to the bell. The hunting horn was used to communicate among hunters on the hunt and to pass on information. With the help of animal horns, a limited number of tones (1-2 tones) of different heights could be produced. The hunting signals of prehistoric times consisted of a limited number of tones of different durations and pitches right up to the High Middle Ages.

The animal horn was used by hunters until the beginning of the 19th century
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The metal horns eventually replaced the animal horns. Since then, attempts have been made to achieve an optimal combination of practicality (handiness) and sound quality. The development of hunting horns and their external design shows a constant balance between handiness and therefore compactness on the one hand and the expansion of musical possibilities on the other, which in the past was always associated with lengthening the tube.

The short signal horn has been preserved to this day in the so-called Fürst-Pleßhorn. It got its name after the Kaisers chief hunter, Prince von Pleß, who made a significant contribution to its spread. With a range of 5 tones, it offers the layperson the opportunity to create a simple but memorable melody.

In addition to this handy hunting horn, a larger horn, the so-called Parforce horn, also became popular, which was adopted by the French in the 17th and 18th centuries. This horn was mainly used for equestrian hunting, which is why less emphasis was placed on the handiness and more on the sound quality.

With the longer length of the tube (approx. 4.50 m), larger sections of the natural note series could also be blown at the same time.

From the 19th century onwards, the Parforcehorn was pushed out of hunting and ordinary hunters preferred the Fürst-Plesshorn for practical reasons.

The parforce horn only became popular among hunters in Germany again after 1970, as hunting music became more and more important at that time.

Today's hunters in Germany and the German-speaking neighboring countries blow the Pleßhorn in B ("in B" means: the written note C sounds from the tube as the note B), the so-called Parforcehorn in B and the Parforcehorn in E flat (also switchable to B/Es).

As the number of active hunting horn blowers increased, so did the need to blow the horn outside of actual hunting, usually in organized groups. Today there are so-called brass groups at all levels of the hunting association structure (hunting association/hunting ring level), in which concert hunting music is primarily presented.
 
Thanks for the very educational post you have put up. I never thought about hunting horns even though I used to follow The Beaufort Hunt (On foot) as a youngster in my early teens.
I wish you well in your new "pursuit Sir and maybe when you are "accomplished" you could post a short video, I for one would find it interesting! :tiphat:
 
Thanks for the very educational post you have put up. I never thought about hunting horns even though I used to follow The Beaufort Hunt (On foot) as a youngster in my early teens.
I wish you well in your new "pursuit Sir and maybe when you are "accomplished" you could post a short video, I for one would find it interesting! :tiphat:
Kind of this will be the future for me if it works out.
 
Superb stuff. These traditions are important and well done to you for giving it a go.
The music binds hunting into the community. It also demonstrates respect for the quarry.
Hopefully both add to/defend/bolster the acceptance of hunting.
 
They are assuming that I will be reading the notes from a jagdhorn music book.
Has anyone on here had to learn to read music? It seems to be going totally over my head as I have tried the youtube way but so far I still cannot get my head around it.
 
They are assuming that I will be reading the notes from a jagdhorn music book.
Has anyone on here had to learn to read music? It seems to be going totally over my head as I have tried the youtube way but so far I still cannot get my head around it.
Well done for trying something new. Jagdhornbläser are reputedly in short supply, so new recruits of whatever vintage are bound to be welcome.
As a shooter/stalker accustomed only to GB practices, I had considered horn-blowing a quirky German affectation: however, I changed my mind immediately I experienced the firelight dusk ceremonies after the first moved-game shoot I went on in the Fatherland, and took up the Plesshorn shortly afterwards.
I found Gerhardt Sowa's book/CD 'Halali' useful - though I'm sure your group-leader will have suggestions too. As far as reading music goes, there are only five (well, maybe six) notes you need - and you'll probably find plenty of the others can't read music anyway. That said, it's probably like reading anything else - with a little practice, you'll catch on, most likely.
As far as playing goes, 15mins practice every day is better than two hours once a week: and keep the horn somewhere where you can see it, so it guilt-trips you into picking it up every day.

I wish I had a group local to me - though it seems not to be a big thing in Manchester!
 
Here I am at nearly 74 and I have just joined the local hunting horn group. I was as a 13y/o in the Coventry School of Music playing a trumpet but what remains in my head time will tell. They were very welcoming to me and the pub that they do it in is a hunters paradise, the walls are dripping with trophies as the pub owner now in his 80s was the local hunter. The horn I will be using is a Fürst -Pless that I bought new 20 years ago.
Blowing the hunting horn with its hunting guidance and dead signals is a part of hunting customs. Hunting horn signals can be heard from far away in forests and fields and are still used today for communication, for example during group hunts. With the help of hunting signals, for example, the beginning and end of a hunt are announced, the beaters are encouraged and the hunters, beaters and dogs are called together. With the dead signal for a hunted piece of game, the hunter pays homage to the hunted game and thanks its creator for the hunting success. In addition, hunting horn signals shape many hunters' events in the hunting and private sectors.

Blowing hunting horns is an old cultural asset that is still maintained today and used in practical hunting operations.

People recognized early on that dull sounds could be produced with the buffalo or ox horn. For this purpose, the tip of the animal horn was sawn off and drilled out to the bell. The hunting horn was used to communicate among hunters on the hunt and to pass on information. With the help of animal horns, a limited number of tones (1-2 tones) of different heights could be produced. The hunting signals of prehistoric times consisted of a limited number of tones of different durations and pitches right up to the High Middle Ages.

The animal horn was used by hunters until the beginning of the 19th century
.

The metal horns eventually replaced the animal horns. Since then, attempts have been made to achieve an optimal combination of practicality (handiness) and sound quality. The development of hunting horns and their external design shows a constant balance between handiness and therefore compactness on the one hand and the expansion of musical possibilities on the other, which in the past was always associated with lengthening the tube.

The short signal horn has been preserved to this day in the so-called Fürst-Pleßhorn. It got its name after the Kaisers chief hunter, Prince von Pleß, who made a significant contribution to its spread. With a range of 5 tones, it offers the layperson the opportunity to create a simple but memorable melody.

In addition to this handy hunting horn, a larger horn, the so-called Parforce horn, also became popular, which was adopted by the French in the 17th and 18th centuries. This horn was mainly used for equestrian hunting, which is why less emphasis was placed on the handiness and more on the sound quality.

With the longer length of the tube (approx. 4.50 m), larger sections of the natural note series could also be blown at the same time.

From the 19th century onwards, the Parforcehorn was pushed out of hunting and ordinary hunters preferred the Fürst-Plesshorn for practical reasons.

The parforce horn only became popular among hunters in Germany again after 1970, as hunting music became more and more important at that time.

Today's hunters in Germany and the German-speaking neighboring countries blow the Pleßhorn in B ("in B" means: the written note C sounds from the tube as the note B), the so-called Parforcehorn in B and the Parforcehorn in E flat (also switchable to B/Es).

As the number of active hunting horn blowers increased, so did the need to blow the horn outside of actual hunting, usually in organized groups. Today there are so-called brass groups at all levels of the hunting association structure (hunting association/hunting ring level), in which concert hunting music is primarily presented.
Well done for getting in to the group. I haven't shot in Germany but shot with Germans in UK. I like their style and traditions as well as respect for game.
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I have only been doing it for six weeks now and they bomb shelled me last night with the news "we are doing the musical performance at the local annual jaeger group meeting with ca. 100 hunters and an evening meal etc this Saturday and you should join us, please come in full loden outfit". The horn group master must think I am getting better at it.
This will be a large pucker factor for me.
BTW I hit 74 today.
 
I have only been doing it for six weeks now and they bomb shelled me last night with the news "we are doing the musical performance at the local annual jaeger group meeting with ca. 100 hunters and an evening meal etc this Saturday and you should join us, please come in full loden outfit". The horn group master must think I am getting better at it.
This will be a large pucker factor for me.
BTW I hit 74 today.
Happy birthday!
Bet you still look great in the loden gear, so much classier than cammo.
 
I have only been doing it for six weeks now and they bomb shelled me last night with the news "we are doing the musical performance at the local annual jaeger group meeting with ca. 100 hunters and an evening meal etc this Saturday and you should join us, please come in full loden outfit". The horn group master must think I am getting better at it.
This will be a large pucker factor for me.
BTW I hit 74 today.
Gratuliere - Herzlichen Glückwunsch!
This sounds like it will actually be an experience to be savoured, even if a small measure of anxiety is inevitable - and perhaps even appropriate, if it encourages thorough preparation!
However, I'm sure you're right - the boss wouldn't have asked you if he didn't think you were up to it.
:) 🎺
PS I wonder whether we could have a Fürst-Pless-Horn in the SD Smileys?
 
I have only been doing it for six weeks now and they bomb shelled me last night with the news "we are doing the musical performance at the local annual jaeger group meeting with ca. 100 hunters and an evening meal etc this Saturday and you should join us, please come in full loden outfit". The horn group master must think I am getting better at it.
This will be a large pucker factor for me.
BTW I hit 74 today.
Happy birthday - May your horn never be silent!
 
I really do like the end of hunt ceremony you have on the Continent. It’s a sign of respect and that the game will now become food. It also everyone who has been involved all together and the opportunity to formally thank those who made the hunt happen.

Compared to a number of driven phaesant shoots I have been on - birds just dumped in the game cart, and beaters are just a lower form of help and never acknowledged and reciprocally the guns are just a bunch of Toffs who have n’t a clue.
 
Did the show last Saturday, 25 players were in 3 rows all in brown loden suits me too with hats, I was well hidden in the 3rd row so that the mobile phones could get us all into their frames. We blew the start then blew Halali Jagd vorbei (hunt is over) for the hunters that had passed during the last year, then we did a few more tunes and finally a closing tune. My notes reverberated back from the player in front of me and sounded not too bad to my anxious ear. Anyhow this was how the hall was decked out showing the different leases antlers taken for the past year, this is legally obligatory in Bavaria. I enjoyed the evening immensely.
 

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Shot in Bavaria last December the only thing not to be shot were foxes as they keep them around to kill off the mice etc in the forestry,except for one fox that had mange, who’s peg did it come by.So at the Tableau the horn players were not amused as they seldom blow fora fox and apparently it’s one of the harder ones to play.
 
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