Wretched speeding ticket!

You will see, if you read it again, that the £40 refers to the "cost recovery element" part of the fee and not the actual total fee you pay which will also include the so called administration fee. The administration fee being the course providers bunce !

You are quite likely right which is why I e-mailed them this morning to ask where the nearest centre was that I could attend and how much the fee was.
To be honest I will pay for and attend the course rather than have the points on my (Currently clean) driving license.
 
Includes pickups such as Hilux, l200 etc

Are you thinking the reduced 'van' speed limit applies to those double cab pickups?

Not so, they qualify as 'dual-purpose' vehicles and the higher national speed limits apply.

Most double cab pick ups would fall into the class of dual purpose vehicle (examples of a double cab pick up are vehicles such as Mitsubishi Warrior and a Ford Ranger). A dual purpose vehicle is;

  • constructed/adapted for carriage of both passengers and goods
  • a vehicle with an unladen weight not exceeding 2040 kgs
  • constructed/adapted that the driving power of the engine can be transmitted to all wheels
  • must have rigid roof, transverse passenger seats and rear windows amongst other things.
The national speed limits applicable to dual purpose vehicles (when not drawing a trailer) are the same as those for a car:

  • motorway 70mph
  • dual carriageway 70mph
  • single carriageway 60mph
  • built up area 30mph
 
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You are quite likely right which is why I e-mailed them this morning to ask where the nearest centre was that I could attend and how much the fee was.
To be honest I will pay for and attend the course rather than have the points on my (Currently clean) driving license.
I was caught in Poole in Dorset and had to do the course in Winfrith in Dorset, the fee was £105. That was 2011.
 
Are you thinking the reduced 'van' speed limit applies to those double cab pickups?

Not so, they qualify as 'dual-purpose' vehicles and the higher national speed limits apply.

Most double cab pick ups would fall into the class of dual purpose vehicle (examples of a double cab pick up are vehicles such as Mitsubishi Warrior and a Ford Ranger). A dual purpose vehicle is;

  • constructed/adapted for carriage of both passengers and goods
  • a vehicle with an unladen weight not exceeding 2040 kgs
  • constructed/adapted that the driving power of the engine can be transmitted to all wheels
  • must have rigid roof, transverse passenger seats and rear windows amongst other things.
The national speed limits applicable to dual purpose vehicles (when not drawing a trailer) are the same as those for a car:

  • motorway 70mph
  • dual carriageway 70mph
  • single carriageway 60mph
  • built up area 30mph

Bit of a grey area whether they fall under the duel purpose rule or not, try googling it , many different opinions
even Mitsubishi say no regarding the l200
 
Bit of a grey area whether they fall under the duel purpose rule or not, try googling it , many different opinions
even Mitsubishi say no regarding the l200

No grey area at all - and googling might well throw up 'opinions' from the uninformed. ;)

Simply look at the Con & Use Regulations and if it fits the criteria, (and most, if not all RH drive UK market specific double cabs do), then it qualifies as a dual purpose vehicle.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...es/car-derived-vans-and-dual-purpose-vehicles
 
And to add as an example...................

When the VW Amarok was introduced onto the UK market in 2011 the first vehicles were 'mistakenly' designated by VW as being over the important qualifying 2040kg unladen weight. When owners started querying the lower speed limit that their double cabs were then subject to, they realised their 'mistake' and as if by magic, the plated weight was revised to come just under the required figure - despite remaining at the original in other world markets. :D

It would be a massively negative selling point for manufacturers not to comply with the UK legislation if they possibly could find a way to achieve it.
 
Take the course, learn something and you do not have to declare it to any other third party such as FEO or insurance.
Be aware though, that if you are caught speeding within a 3 year period of taking the course you will have to take the full penalty and points - you will not be offered the course again within that 3 year period.
 
And to add as an example...................

When the VW Amarok was introduced onto the UK market in 2011 the first vehicles were 'mistakenly' designated by VW as being over the important qualifying 2040kg unladen weight. When owners started querying the lower speed limit that their double cabs were then subject to, they realised their 'mistake' and as if by magic, the plated weight was revised to come just under the required figure - despite remaining at the original in other world markets. :D

It would be a massively negative selling point for manufacturers not to comply with the UK legislation if they possibly could find a way to achieve it.

And as a VW the only thing to come out of the tailpipe is rainwater :shock:
 
Coming back to the original subject I have just spoken to the course organisers for my area (Lancashire) and have been told that I can do the course in Accrington (Just a half hours drive away - And that's without speeding!) and it will cost £85.00! Not as bad as the £100 fine and three points so that will do me nicely!
Just as a side note - I am struggling to understand why the price for the same course is so varied throughout different parts of the country!
 
Coming back to the original subject I have just spoken to the course organisers for my area (Lancashire) and have been told that I can do the course in Accrington (Just a half hours drive away - And that's without speeding!) and it will cost £85.00! Not as bad as the £100 fine and three points so that will do me nicely!
Just as a side note - I am struggling to understand why the price for the same course is so varied throughout different parts of the country!
Donuts and pies vary greatly in price in the different areas of the country presumably!
 
Coming back to the original subject I have just spoken to the course organisers for my area (Lancashire) and have been told that I can do the course in Accrington (Just a half hours drive away - And that's without speeding!) and it will cost £85.00! Not as bad as the £100 fine and three points so that will do me nicely!
Just as a side note - I am struggling to understand why the price for the same course is so varied throughout different parts of the country!

Not all run by the same people
 
The bottom line is FrenchieBoy has done the absolute right thing. Any driver training is a good thing, its scary the things we don't know but we think we are a better driver than the driver in the other car. I have had loads of driver training but not fortunately so far as a penalty requirement. that's not to say I have never got it wrong. But I welcome every opportunity to take training and assessment. I don't know what bad habits I have developed until someone tells me. Your mind is like a parachute, it only works when its open. Tom
 
I just had my letter through the door today. 40 in a 30 zone. Let the good times roll...
Tough luck mate. It only takes the slightest lapse in concentration and you can end up getting "flashed!
Like they say "S*** happens", you've just got to take it on the chin, accept it and move on!
Still a bit of a bitch though!
 
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