Following the thread on 7mm -o8, I was wondering how prolific 7mm is on the forum, I use a 7mm WSM amongst other stuff, this is considered to have close similarities with the Remmy SAUM, I guess I might get an echo in reply for the WSM!
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Claret_Dabbler
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Can't say about the forum. However, I was in my local dealers a few days ago for reloading supplies. He had any amount of bullets for 224/243/6.5, a small selection of 270 and 30cal bullets and no 7mm at all....
Following the thread on 7mm -o8, I was wondering how prolific 7mm is on the forum, I use a 7mm WSM amongst other stuff, this is considered to have close similarities with the Remmy SAUM, I guess I might get an echo in reply for the WSM!
Ive use a 7mm WSM for a long time,cant beat it in my opinion
I have a 7x57 custom currently but have built many 280's and some 7mm wild cats. Had a 284, a 7mmBR (Remington XP-100 handgun the meanest jackrabbit gun ever) and a 7-30 Waters on a Swedish bolt action. I like 7mms but keep gravitating back to the ol' 7x57 I've owned for 30 years. I do have my eye on a 7x57 1901 Steyr Small Ring Model 98 in a pawn shop in the city. I'd like to build a 7-08 on it.~Muir
hairybiker
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7mm Rem Mag, love it. Don't generally use it down South, just keep it for the hill. Would be the last rifle that I would get rid of.
flytie
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Muir, shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! Brit will hear and go mental if you threaten to alter something classic
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Bashing Bambi
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I have a .275 Rigby, it gets used on the hill and down south and for special clients they get a go as well! Its a lovely cartridge and complements the others in th cabinet very well.
Brithunter
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Now let's see 
I have two at the moment with a third on the way. The two are a BSA CF2 in 7x57 which according to Knibbs book is one of 389 made in this chambering. The other is a DWM Special sporting (Plezier) made about 1897 for the Boers and was used against us in the 2nd Boer war. #3 will be a .280 AI being adapted from 7x64 barrel. The one is a well worn .270 Win BSA 1st pattern Monarch and as I type this the stripped action lays upon my desk.
I used to have two more 7x57's both by DWM and both original M93 Mausers, they were a Carbine and an OVS marked long rifle also made for the Boers. They had to be sold to help replace te car after a nice white van man wrote my Citroen off for me.
Hmmm I saw .280 British mentioned
now that is an interesting cartridge 
Lew Potter built up a custom Ruger no1 in that chambering I recall and it seems that he and his wife were involved with the development and loading of that cartridge for the EM2 trials. That is unless it was meant to be the .280 Nitro which is a down loaded version of the .280 Ross and it was found full power Ross loads soon caused Mausers to developed lug set back due to their extremely high chamber pressures. So Eley developed a lower pressure version which they called the .280 Nitro.
As for others well let's see... Walt had a Blaser R93 professional in 7x57 which he sold and acquired a classic Mannlich GK in 7x64, sadly the bore was quite worn so it has been re-barreled and is now a 7-08..................*shiver* when his grandfathers GK's grouping also started to open up that too has bee re-barreled now also into 708.. I have no idea why they chose this new comer over the original 7x64. Anyway Cliff's will see him out no doubt. his "piggie" gun is a double SxS that was a classic English in 300 Sherwood but was rusted out so with the makers consent new barrels were made in Ferlach in 7x65R with final regulation done here in the UK. I cannot recall the maker but there is a book on his guns and this one is included with the note that it has been re-barreled into 7x65R.
Now i noticed originally that 7mm projectiles were a bit scare so I ordered 500 Hornady 139 Spire points. Luckily they seem to be more common around Lincolnshire as Forest Lodge of Wragby carry they on the shelf.
I have two at the moment with a third on the way. The two are a BSA CF2 in 7x57 which according to Knibbs book is one of 389 made in this chambering. The other is a DWM Special sporting (Plezier) made about 1897 for the Boers and was used against us in the 2nd Boer war. #3 will be a .280 AI being adapted from 7x64 barrel. The one is a well worn .270 Win BSA 1st pattern Monarch and as I type this the stripped action lays upon my desk.I used to have two more 7x57's both by DWM and both original M93 Mausers, they were a Carbine and an OVS marked long rifle also made for the Boers. They had to be sold to help replace te car after a nice white van man wrote my Citroen off for me.
Hmmm I saw .280 British mentioned
now that is an interesting cartridge Lew Potter built up a custom Ruger no1 in that chambering I recall and it seems that he and his wife were involved with the development and loading of that cartridge for the EM2 trials. That is unless it was meant to be the .280 Nitro which is a down loaded version of the .280 Ross and it was found full power Ross loads soon caused Mausers to developed lug set back due to their extremely high chamber pressures. So Eley developed a lower pressure version which they called the .280 Nitro.As for others well let's see... Walt had a Blaser R93 professional in 7x57 which he sold and acquired a classic Mannlich GK in 7x64, sadly the bore was quite worn so it has been re-barreled and is now a 7-08..................*shiver* when his grandfathers GK's grouping also started to open up that too has bee re-barreled now also into 708.. I have no idea why they chose this new comer over the original 7x64. Anyway Cliff's will see him out no doubt. his "piggie" gun is a double SxS that was a classic English in 300 Sherwood but was rusted out so with the makers consent new barrels were made in Ferlach in 7x65R with final regulation done here in the UK. I cannot recall the maker but there is a book on his guns and this one is included with the note that it has been re-barreled into 7x65R.
Now i noticed originally that 7mm projectiles were a bit scare so I ordered 500 Hornady 139 Spire points. Luckily they seem to be more common around Lincolnshire as Forest Lodge of Wragby carry they on the shelf
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John Gryphon
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Have run my 7MM RM for 30 years,it doesn't let you down either
flytie
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Brit, I was fortunate to find Lew on a day when he was not flat out and he kindly ran me through the history of the .280 British. He was working at the RC @ Shrivenham and was shown the drawings and dimensions for the cartridge used in trials that the MOD held when they were developing the .280. They allowed him a copy of them. And yes he did build it on a Ruger Mk1, "a gentleman's gun" as he calls it. The case is small and is full (ish) of fairly quick powder. I was told that the bullet has more retained energy at 1000yds than the .303 round that the military used. I covet that rifle, and I am not prone to jealousyHmmm I saw .280 British mentioned
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.280_British
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Bashing Bambi
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That must be awkward to reload for, I havent heard of a case that could easily be converted to it. Was the Ruger in the .280/.30 format giving slightly better capacity as with the actual service cartridge adopted but dropped or was it the original version?
Many years ago when I still believed what the instructors told me I was in a fire trench at Hythe. It must have been one used for trialling the 4.85mm IW as it was full of the brass in the bottom.
I (believing my instructors) left the brass there as I actually believed the doom that would befall me taking stuff away from a range.
Many years ago when I still believed what the instructors told me I was in a fire trench at Hythe. It must have been one used for trialling the 4.85mm IW as it was full of the brass in the bottom.
I (believing my instructors) left the brass there as I actually believed the doom that would befall me taking stuff away from a range.
Brithunter
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Brit, I was fortunate to find Lew on a day when he was not flat out and he kindly ran me through the history of the .280 British. He was working at the RC @ Shrivenham and was shown the drawings and dimensions for the cartridge used in trials that the MOD held when they were developing the .280. They allowed him a copy of them. And yes he did build it on a Ruger Mk1, "a gentleman's gun" as he calls it. The case is small and is full (ish) of fairly quick powder. I was told that the bullet has more retained energy at 1000yds than the .303 round that the military used. I covet that rifle, and I am not prone to jealousy
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Ahhh Lew tried to sell that rifle but no one wanted it even though it came with dies, cases and loading data
so Lew pulled the barrel off and put a common chambering on it and it flew out of the door. It was Lew that fitted the new Steyr made 6.5x54MS barrel to my Model 1903. Sadly he no longer does that stuff so he says. Too busy writing.Bashing Bambi
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The trials showed that the original .280 round had an awful bullet drop of 5 foot at 500 yards. Correcting that to appease the trial team took too long and the US decided upon the T56 cartridge which became 7.62 x 51. A lot of fine cartridge development was shunted off because of that but as much again was spawned by its adoption. We may yet see it return within the next 20 years as part of the next calibre change trials.
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