DMQ to charge AW's

So most of the AW’s on this thread have said they don’t charge yet 89% surveyed said they did. Was the survey open to all AW or a select few? Were the questions loaded ones so twisted the results?
where are the 89%?


:suss: sorta like,,, We asked a 100 anti,s "should hunting be abolished" ,,, have a guess what the answer would be,,:doh:

survey statistics can be engineered to be meaningless, as easy as meaningful.
 
Surely this is biting the hand that feeds you. DMQ should be rewarding AW's not penalising them. Bet the next thing is an "approved" 5 day course for DSC2 at some astronomical fee in a few inaccessible places.
 
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As an AW I have not done a lot of witness stalks and I have never charged even expenses if DMQ want me to contribute to there accounts by sending me a bill I will start charging for witnessing and guess where the bill is going.
Look out DMQ, the invoice will be what I get paid for a days work and plus expenses.
 
Reloaded 54 exactly my point.
How many AW’s on this thread participated in the survey? Or was it whoever called or was in the office that morning?
 
Surely this is biting the hand that feeds you. BDS should be rewarding AW's not penalising them. Bet the next thing is an "approved" 5 day course for DSC2 at some astronomical fee in a few inaccessible places.

You are confusing BDS with DMQ . Maybe you could edit your post to avoid anyone else making the same mistake.
 
On one of my witnessed stalks I travelled 50 miles each way and spent, up to, a pleasant four hours with a guy I had never met before and found very interesting, he was a pilot for a private company.
I enjoyed his company, his ground and when he asked me what I charged I suggested a bit of money for fuel.
As he had the same vehicle as me, a D4 LR, he asked if £20 for each stalk would be OK which I gratefully received and at the end of his three witnessed stalks, on top of the £20.00 he presented me with a knife the same as the one he was using, he probably noticed how I admired it ;-)
So as far as DMQ/BDS are concerned I have 'Charged' to witness and I should imagine that is how they came up with the % that 'Charged' a fee :-(
 
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Approx 4 years ago with BASC membership cost increasing year on year I decide to switch to the NGO a few months later I received a letter from BASC saying it appeared that I was no longer a BACS member and as such my name would no longer be included in there list of A.W's
So in effect they wanted me to pay to be an A.W. even back then

To be honest as one of many that never charged it was no great loss.

Paul
 
when they asked about charges it was a bit misleading as there is a huge difference between making money and charging a small fee for fuel after driving to witness, it was black and white do you intend on taking money for witnessing. many will ask for fuel money or to cover costs, regards Wayne
 
I've been an AW since its inception and never charged anyone. All candidates are very grateful for my time and the occasional bottle of wine is gratefully received. I too wonder who was surveyed as I certainly wasn't. Methinks my days as an AW are numbered!

Karl
 
As an AW myself I will wait to see how much the fee is and pass the cost onto candidates. If it’s not too excessive I can’t see it being an issue. It may only mean adding a fiver or so to each witnessed outing.
I’m surprised it’s taken them this long to ask for it to be honest.
HF
 
As an AW myself I will wait to see how much the fee is and pass the cost onto candidates. If it’s not too excessive I can’t see it being an issue. It may only mean adding a fiver or so to each witnessed outing.
I’m surprised it’s taken them this long to ask for it to be honest.
HF
But you are earning THEM money! If anything they should pay you! They pay me to assess it but now want to charge me as an AW? :cuckoo:
MS
 
and what will happen is most of the old guard with vast years of experience will leave the system. In their place will come wannabes who have done level 1&2 inside a year shot 30-40 deer and be happy to pay to be an AW for the bragging rights!!
 
I find it astonishing that the shareholders of DMQ, which include BASC and BDS, and a few others, see the accounts earlier in this thread, being predominantly membership organisations are not consulting members on this. BASC members should be consulted first before the "subsidiary" entity of theirs seeks to engage in excess profit generation. DMQ is a not for profit organisation, and yet makes an annual surplus and covers all of its costs in any case. So the premise of charging AWs to be registered etc. is totally unsupportable.
 
and what will happen is most of the old guard with vast years of experience will leave the system. In their place will come wannabes who have done level 1&2 inside a year shot 30-40 deer and be happy to pay to be an AW for the bragging rights!!
^^^ correct
 
It would be interesting to see how the stance of numerous AW's potentially stopping would affect the take up/conversion of DSC1 holders to DSC2. It seems DSC1 is becoming more and more popular, however the current stance of the powers that be may not be a very effective long term solution.
As it is upwardly progressive, it will stagnate. I'm sure at least one of the stakeholders would/could have this thread brought to their attention with the intention of further consideration of their actions.

As a current DSC1 holder, with the intention of moving on at some point to DSC2 and a member of BASC I dont support this and particularly without proper consultation or clarity.
 
and what will happen is most of the old guard with vast years of experience will leave the system. In their place will come wannabes who have done level 1&2 inside a year shot 30-40 deer and be happy to pay to be an AW for the bragging rights!!
Rather a blinkered view I think SF. The reality as I am sure you're aware is that very few DSC2 qualified stalkers fall into the catagory that you have just described. You may be annoyed but let's keep it real eh!
 
Rather a blinkered view I think SF. The reality as I am sure you're aware is that very few DSC2 qualified stalkers fall into the catagory that you have just described. You may be annoyed but let's keep it real eh!

I think SF’s post is spot on!

You would be surprised at the number of stalkers who have level 2 and have only shot 20 beasts full stop.

I have witnessed stalkers that within 6 months of passing L2 they are on the AW list, all who you know not what you know!
 
the reply from DMQ.


Many thanks you for your email with regard costs.



Costs have not been determined and will be considered prior to any implementation anticipated to be sometime during 2019.
As stated in the Newsletter, DMQ is not looking to generate income but simply to cover its own cost of administration.
I am sorry that I am unable to help you with more detail.


Regards
DMQ Working Group
 
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