Where is it not legal to carry a folding knife ?

[CarlW]

I have a 2" folding Swiss army knife on my key ring which I use for cutting the stems off broccoli as they charge by weight and who eats the stems ?
I suppose I could be reported by an irritated supermarket assistant ? It says a lot that we are even discussing this.
Its clear to me that you are culturally disposed or trained to use a knife for self protection and have to be amoral to even consider using it- I certainly would no more stab a person than shoot them with my firearms - then again, i have never needed to be violent - couple of times before 16 but thats it..

Can't stop laughing.

 

[8x57]

I have a 2" folding Swiss army knife on my key ring which I use for cutting the stems off broccoli as they charge by weight and who eats the stems ?

I know about "pick your own" on farms and "self service" in supermarkets but self preparation in supermarkets is a new one on me mate. Do you prep all your veg in the supermarket, must take some time peeling the potatoes.

I get slightly annoyed waiting at the scales for some old dear to weigh and bag her tomatoes, I think you prepping your veg for Sunday dinner would really p**s me off.

 

[kamyonsofor]

I have a nice little pocket knife but usually leave it under my seat when going in anywhere,now in Turkey if you are caught with a lock knife blade longer than the index finger they measure it against the finger and it is known the Police will ram the blade between the fingers when proving it to be over length, won't happen here will it.

 

[Ben_4321]

I have a 2" folding Swiss army knife on my key ring which I use for cutting the stems off broccoli as they charge by weight and who eats the stems ?
I suppose I could be reported by an irritated supermarket assistant ? It says a lot that we are even discussing this.
Its clear to me that you are culturally disposed or trained to use a knife for self protection and have to be amoral to even consider using it- I certainly would no more stab a person than shoot them with my firearms - then again, i have never needed to be violent - couple of times before 16 but thats it..

I eat the stems - and tell my children they are rare green carrots.

 

[Scotty99]

This from the government website

Selling, buying and carrying knives
The maximum penalty for an adult carrying a knife is 4 years in prison and an unlimited fine. You’ll get a prison sentence if you’re convicted of carrying a knife more than once.
Basic laws on knives
It’s illegal to:

• sell a knife to anyone under 18, unless it has a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less
• carry a knife in public without good reason, unless it has a folding blade with a cutting edge 3 inches long or less
• carry, buy or sell any type of banned knife
• use any knife in a threatening way (even a legal knife)

Scotland
In Scotland, 16 to 18 year olds are allowed to buy cutlery and kitchen knives.
Lock knives
Lock knives are not classed as folding knives and are illegal to carry in public without good reason. Lock knives:

• have blades that can be locked and refolded only by pressing a button
• can include multi-tool knives - tools that also contain other devices such as a screwdriver or can opener

Banned knives and weapons
It is illegal to bring into the UK, sell, hire, lend or give anyone the following:

• butterfly knives (also known as ‘balisongs’) - a blade hidden inside a handle that splits in the middle
• disguised knives - a blade or sharp point hidden inside what looks like everyday objects such as a buckle, phone, brush or lipstick
• flick knives (also known as ‘switchblades’ or ‘automatic knives’) - a blade hidden inside a handle which shoots out when a button is pressed
• gravity knives
• stealth knives - a knife or spike not made from metal (except when used at home, for food or a toy)
• zombie knives - a knife with a cutting edge, a serrated edge and images or words suggesting it is used for violence
• swords, including samurai swords - a curved blade over 50cm (with some exceptions, such as antiques and swords made to traditional methods before 1954)
• sword-sticks - a hollow walking stick or cane containing a blade
• push daggers
• blowpipes (‘blow gun’)
• telescopic truncheons - extend automatically by pressing button or spring in the handle
• batons - straight, side-handled or friction-lock truncheons
• hollow kubotans - a cylinder-shaped keychain holding spikes
• shurikens (also known as ‘shaken’, ‘death stars’ or ‘throwing stars’)
• kusari-gama - a sickle attached to a rope, cord or wire
• kyoketsu-shoge - a hook-knife attached to a rope, cord or wire
• kusari (or ‘manrikigusari’) - a weight attached to a rope, cord, wire
• hand or foot-claws
• knuckledusters

Contact your local police to check if a knife or weapon is illegal.
Good reasons for carrying a knife or weapon
Examples of good reasons to carry a knife or weapon in public can include:

• taking knives you use at work to and from work
• taking it to a gallery or museum to be exhibited
• if it’ll be used for theatre, film, television, historical reenactment or religious purposes, for example the kirpan some Sikhs carry
• if it’ll be used in a demonstration or to teach someone how to use it

A court will decide if you’ve got a good reason to carry a knife or a weapon if you’re charged with carrying it.

 

[kes]

To all of you who do not prepare veg in supermarkets - Its an inherited thing amazingly, my Dad used to refuse to pay for wastage so he chopped off unwanted bits from veg ( most unpackaged then ) I am just carrying on a family tradition - honest officer, you could call it a family religeon.
I actually pull grapes off to taste them first before buying, removing the remaining stalk with my 'smaller than average' Swiss army knife.
I actually like my grapes to be ripe. I dont peel potatoes - yet and have never been known to stab pineapple. I do however give melons a squeeze - doesnt everyone ?

 

[Hornet 6]

These day I dont carry a knife so much, used to carry one all the time no matter what I was doing, started at age 8, yes I carried a knife to school
now at 60 + I have decided its not worth the possible hassle, don't keep one in the car either as apparently my personal car is public property, which probably explains why the police wont visit when someone breaks in to to it, or steals it.

I'd love to live somewhere that a concealed carry permit was available.
But glad to live in a place where it's not needed.

Not actually sure you need a gun in anyplace concealed carry is legal.

This from a mate now living in the USA, he moved over there many years ago, and said at the time that he found it a much more polite society
and far less violent, mainly he felt because with so many people carrying a gun people were far less likely to thump someone for spilling their beer.
Maybe not a best analogy, but back in the 70's and 80's a friday night fight fight in the pub was not exactly rare over here.
After all this time he is still there living in the US but does now have a ticket to carry, and does, but only on special occasions, like when carrying
a fair wad of cash to go buy a car or bike in a strange, to him area area.

Neil.

 

[Frank Homes]

Can't stop laughing.

I must admit this did make me chuckle too and possibly BASC. reps might raise a smile as well.

F

 

[sauer]

Thought I would have read the term “EDC” before now
Every day carry
As said blade length less than 3”

Non locking .... reads above as push of a button to close or open


So where does an Opinel get classed as ?


Paul

 

[nun_hunter]

So where does an Opinel get classed as ?

If it has the twisting collet to lock the blade in place then it's a lock knife. If not it's legal but with no friction or anything to hold the blade open you're more likely to chop a finger off!

 

[BryanDC]

Thought I would have read the term “EDC” before now
Every day carry
As said blade length less than 3”

Non locking .... reads above as push of a button to close or open


So where does an Opinel get classed as ?


Paul

I thought the standard one was locking as it has the collar, but as you say it is not pushing a button and as the law is pedantic then should it be classed as locking. It does not say locking device for example a button. However, looking at many knife suppliers they all class them as locking and therefore illegal to carry without good reason. You can buy one without the locking collar.

 

[gonzo]

A few mentioned leaving knives (fixed/lock/>3") in the car. I can't see this being accepted in court. If it were, just in the glove compartment etc. s a car in a public place is considered a public place, as far as this law goes.

But what if it were part of another kit? Such as tools for car maintainence.
Or leaving a knife in a works tool kit, in the works van, when not actually working, going to be accepted as good reason?
How about a knife as part of a car toolk kit for the car, or emergency pack?

These are the all too common situations, where it leaves normal people trying to second guess the law.

 

[nun_hunter]

Definition of a lock knife from the Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act 1959 states "a lock knife has a mechanism which locks the blade in position when fully extended. The blade cannot then be closed without the mechanism being released."

 

[CarlW]

A few mentioned leaving knives (fixed/lock/>3") in the car. I can't see this being accepted in court. If it were, just in the glove compartment etc. s a car in a public place is considered a public place, as far as this law goes.

But what if it were part of another kit? Such as tools for car maintainence.
Or leaving a knife in a works tool kit, in the works van, when not actually working, going to be accepted as good reason?
How about a knife as part of a car toolk kit for the car, or emergency pack?

These are the all too common situations, where it leaves normal people trying to second guess the law.

I feel pretty confident that the police use their judgment sensibly on these things. A farmer with a hoof knife rattling around in the back of his landrover or indeed an off-duty carpet-fitter whose stanley knife is still in his toolbox in the back of his van are a very different story from a scallywag with a rambo knife tucked into the door pocket of his Fiesta.

 

[Chanty Wrassler]

I do however give melons a squeeze - doesnt everyone ?

I've certainly given fair number of lassies' melons a squeeze

 

[8x57]

To all of you who do not prepare veg in supermarkets - Its an inherited thing amazingly, my Dad used to refuse to pay for wastage so he chopped off unwanted bits from veg ( most unpackaged then ) I am just carrying on a family tradition - honest officer, you could call it a family religeon.
I actually pull grapes off to taste them first before buying, removing the remaining stalk with my 'smaller than average' Swiss army knife.
I actually like my grapes to be ripe. I dont peel potatoes - yet and have never been known to stab pineapple. I do however give melons a squeeze - doesnt everyone ?

I bet that you wouldn't get away with that in Arkwright's shop.

 

[gonzo]

But once the big machine of the law starts turning, you get swept along.
As I posted in another thread... We had one of the lads in court, after door security noticed a tiny (1") folding knife on his key ring. They called the police and it turned out it had a sort of lock on it, which the lad didn't even realise was there.
It sounds like the prosecution and the magistrates were embarased by the whole situation, but in the letter of the law he had to be found guilty. Now that is on his record.

 

[Chanty Wrassler]

If your car's wheel trims are secured by cable ties (as is often the case) then you need a knife to cut them to allow you to change the wheel after a puncture. (Many drivers only realise this at the roadside, in the dark, in the rain, late, . . )

 

[VSS]

I feel pretty confident that the police use their judgment sensibly on these things. A farmer with a hoof knife rattling around in the back of his landrover or indeed an off-duty carpet-fitter whose stanley knife is still in his toolbox in the back of his van are a very different story from a scallywag with a rambo knife tucked into the door pocket of his Fiesta.

Last time I dropped into a police station to check up on something I was dressed, as usual, like a pretty ramshackle kind of farmer. The lady officer behind the reception desk was struggling to unwrap a parcel that had just arrived, so I passed her my (non legal, long bladed, locking) penknife, a Buck 110, with which to cut the tape. She thanked me, took the knife, cut the tape, and handed it back.
Honestly, I think some of you guys worry too much!

 

[tozzybum]

Many owners of the much famed "Leatherman" range of man toys dont realise that razor sharp handy 2" blade on there locks into place so leave themselves at risk of jobsworth plc but as Tim says it,s worrying over trivia .
I,m guessing these days most police are more worried about going out single crewed aginst a car full of numpty,s than if Fred walking home from his allotment is carrying his favourite pruning knife