Who will you vote for?

And therein lies our problem: There is no pro hunting party to vote for which suggests our only option is to establish the party least active in their opposition to what we do.

And good luck with that!

K
We have one here called The Shooters' Fishers' and Farmers' Party. About to take part in our National Election. It has been making some headway in the last couple of years in State elections as well. Why don't you start one similar. After all The Greens started in Europe didn't they? Now they are a blight on our country, just like starlings, foxes and rabbits.
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I'll be voting for whichever party is most likely to deliver a proper Brexit. That rules out all the main parties and all independents because they will never play any part in government. The only party that actually believes in Brexit is Farage's Brexit party. I'm not voting for Farage's personality, though I have nothing against him in that regard. And I can even forgive him his egotism because he's been the only politician with the mettle to persist with the cause of Brexit where all others who have claimed to support it have at some point buckled, wavered or kept their heads down for the sake of their careers. Or in the case of Gove, performed outright U-turns.

His politics is the only brand in the UK right now which actually does what it says on the tin. I don't care about the rest. I don't care about the NHS, schools, hospitals, roads, "the environment", shooting frankly, because none of these issues can be addressed with any degree of honesty, long term commitment or clarity until Brexit is satisfactorily concluded.

The threat of Farage was what delivered the referendum in the first place. The political establishment just didn't take it the outcome seriously. They thought a shadow show would suffice to put the electorate back in their box and then they could just go back to business as usual. There can be no usual business until this is done and it will never be done without the threat of Farage once more.. I don't care whether he' a nice person or not, whether he's a demagogue, a populist or any other meaningless label you care to hang on him. I'll vote for him because he's the only person in British politics who actually believes in Brexit and is prepared to see it through, and if that leads to the collapse of the government and the break up of the main parties, even a short lived and chaotic Marxist administration, so be it. This time it's a case of in it til the finish. Nothing else matters until this is done.
 
The next UK general election must surely be a coalition, the Tories have made such a mess of Brexit (which would have likely been the same had any other party been in power) they won't get voted back in. I hope and pray that Labour are seen for what they are and who is lurking behind the scenes, should they get into power we would see Britain looking more like Russia was under Stalin with John McDonnell pushing all the leadership buttons. The Lib Dems would make a reversal of Brexit a priority and see us subservient to Brussels. I see a Tory / Lib Dem coalition happening again and to be honest the last time that happened they did a fairly decent job of it between them, at least compared to the alternatives.
 
I refuse in any election for anything to give con/lib/lab my vote , it's that simple !

until Brexit is delivered , properly.

only then may my faith in democracy be a little restored
 
Westminster politicians need a very serious kick in the arse. The Brexit part will accomplish some of that in the EU MEP elections.
But, what then?
For myself, I don’t want to see the Corbyn Communist party governing and nor the Tory party in its current state.
Politicians in Westminster seem to think their own agendas are more important than the desire of the voters and I believe only depriving them of their seats is the only way voters have of shoving their ego’s and agendas up their jacksies.
Lib Dems & Greens are certainly not the way to go either.
So, I will vote for a Brexit candidate until these clowns in Westminster have learned properly, we, the public voters pay their salaries.
 
Libertarian Party if there is someone on the ballot, if not the Brexit Party.

To hell with the Lib/Lab/Con (emphasis on CON part) crew.

Absolutely agree with the latter comment there "stubear".... I have lost all belief in the three main parties too. Quite what I will vote to replace them is another matter, but the Lib/Lab/Con parties can go to Hell before I will vote for any of them again as far as I am concerned!!......
 
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The three stooges springs to mind, If they where oxbridge chums. two i wouldn,t trust an inch and the third needs 24 hr security.
 
I've just received, here in France, my Carte Electorale to vote here in France for the EU Elections. I'm waiting to see if there's a "shooters' party" here before deciding of I'll vote in the UK or in France.
 
BREXIT! Get that sorted without any crappy deals and the rest can be sorted out at a later date!
The majority of the country voted for us to leave the EU (no mention of any deals etc..) and it didn't happen!
Well guess what? The majority of the country is now totally ****ed off with a government that didn't deliver on what was voted for! It's not rocket science!
The majority have now either declined to vote, or voted elsewhere which is dangerous as protest votes can lead to idiots such as the Labour party standing an actual chance of getting voted in!
We shouldn't even be in the EU elections! It's ridiculous!!!!!!!
BREXIT NOW!!!!!!!!!!
 
I've just received, here in France, my Carte Electorale to vote here in France for the EU Elections. I'm waiting to see if there's a "shooters' party" here before deciding of I'll vote in the UK or in France.

I decided to vote in France rather than the UK this time, on the grounds that for a European election, I'd like to elect an MEP who is actually going to work on European matters for the next five years, not someone who may not even take their seat, possibly doesn't want to take their seat, or is well-meaning and everything but with a government that isn't actually going to participate in any meaningful way. I only have one vote and I don't want to waste it.

Regarding who to vote for in France, I'll be voting for LREM because I'm consistent, but also because Macron's government is pretty much the friendliest to hunting there has been for decades, as detailed here: Which is the most pro-hunting country / government in the world? Here's the relevant part of their European manifesto (in French though): Notre projet | Renaissance


Incidentally, Happy Europe Day everyone!

 
All votes in Euro elections are wasted votes because the European Parliament is a paper parliament. The EU isn't a country so it's parliament has no sovereign authority and MEPs have no power to enact, repeal or amend legislation and they can be overruled at any time or simply ignored by the unelected European Commission. Which happens all the time.
A vote is wasted if it doesn't lead to representation. The European Parliament isn't representative, it is subordinate. Of course, if you don't believe in the nation state but prefer to live under imperialism, none of this matters and naturally you would support the EU and its institutions because it is a nakedly imperialist construct. But even then, voting in an imperialist system is only a ritual for the sake of appearances. It's pretend democracy and doesn't have any impact on the how you are governed or give you any say in the process.
 
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The majority of the country voted for us to leave the EU....

Someone else said this, just short of a hundred years ago, about another "referendum" on a nation's future:

"The majority has no right to do wrong."
 
Voting to become a self-governing democracy isn't wrong. You might disagree with it or find the majority view inconvenient for all sorts of reasons, but it isn't wrong. There is no moral imperative one way or the other. It's just a simple choice of whether to govern ourselves or surrender our governance to an overseas imperial authority. The UK electorate were asked that question and a clear majority made the choice to be self-governing. It's perfectly simple. Democracy isn't pick and mix. You can't choose to only accept the results you approve of and ignore the rest or demand that they be overturned. Unless you're an EU Commissioner, of course. But then if so, you're not a democrat, you're an authoritarian, for whom democracy is an obstacle to power not a means of representation, so that response is to be expected.
 
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MEPs have no power to enact, repeal or amend legislation and they can be overruled at any time or simply ignored by the unelected European Commission. Which happens all the time.

That just isn't true. The Commission drafts legislation, but MEPs amend, reject or approve it, exactly as they do for the UK in Westminster. And they've done quite a bit of good work in the past five years: What the European Parliament has been up to
 
BREXIT! Get that sorted without any crappy deals and the rest can be sorted out at a later date!
The majority of the country voted for us to leave the EU (no mention of any deals etc..) and it didn't happen!
Well guess what? The majority of the country is now totally ****ed off with a government that didn't deliver on what was voted for! It's not rocket science!
The majority have now either declined to vote, or voted elsewhere which is dangerous as protest votes can lead to idiots such as the Labour party standing an actual chance of getting voted in!
We shouldn't even be in the EU elections! It's ridiculous!!!!!!!
BREXIT NOW!!!!!!!!!!

Quite right MS, but though we shouldn’t be part of, or voting in the EU MEP elections, we are.
So, in my view it’s a great opportunity for voters to show what we think of the way Westminster MP’s have behaved and continue to behave. So a vote for any party other than Tory, Lab., Lib.Dem or Greens is not a wasted vote.
 
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