shakey jake
Well-Known Member
i had a large crypto peerless, handled rabbits and hares with ease, you can get the hobart mixers that have an attachment they seem pretty goof
Raw Feeding - Mince
- Thread starter RidgeBR
- Start date
Dunwaters
Well-Known Member
Id suggest you don't feed raw rabbit,minced or whole, suckers are generally infested with worms that will affect your dog.
Not nice to deal with at all.
It’s widely accepted and known, reported in literature that if you freeze the rabbit for 2 weeks first in deep freeze that it will kill off parasites
Paul
Dunwaters
Well-Known Member
Thanks for the information re freezing and parasites, but how do you get a frozen bunny into the mincer?
reloader54
Well-Known Member
Freeze meat for as long as seven to 10 days and fish for at least 24 hours in a freezer with a temperature of -31 F (-35C) to kill tapeworm eggs and larvae.
To kill the trichinella parasite, freeze a portion of meat that is six inches or less in thickness at 0 degrees Fahrenheit for at least 30 days. This treatment should kill the parasite. Freezing does NOT kill nor eliminate bacteria from meat.
Whatever way you choose to feed your dog, it should be regularly wormed anyway.
All I can say is that during the period of about 3 years when all my working dogs were fed nothing but whole rabbit (including guts and fur) they were healthier than at anytime before or since, and not noticeably any "wormier".
If it weren't for myxi and VHD I'd still be doing it.
I think people fuss too much over what their dogs eat, pandering to a multi-million pound pet food industry. Left to their own devices they're scavengers. Look at some of those feral dogs in the photos posted by John from Australia. Fit and well and thriving - on whole carcasses.
Jonb
Member
I use the dog food company Ltd
they deliver once a month and have a good menu
I have a 40kg cane corso 11 months old. usually I get away with about £30/40 a month and some venison pet mince and Rib Cages
He’s on about 60% chicken wings and the rest is a balance of what’s been shot, fish, heart
he loves a venison rib cage and the odd smaller sized bones.
they deliver once a month and have a good menu
I have a 40kg cane corso 11 months old. usually I get away with about £30/40 a month and some venison pet mince and Rib Cages
He’s on about 60% chicken wings and the rest is a balance of what’s been shot, fish, heart
he loves a venison rib cage and the odd smaller sized bones.
Dunwaters
Well-Known Member
Nahhh, only jokin!
Do you guys all eat your meat entirely raw?? If so do you feel fabulous? Personally I don’t get the raw feeding argument at all, just doesn’t make sense. Sure there are some heat sensitive substances that are denatured by cooking but the overall effect is hugely beneficial. Why choose to give your dogs disease?? Just doesn’t stack up !!
Have any of you tried cooking the raw meat and seeing if your dogs get worse? I see dogs that are made ill by raw feeding, they have a higher chance of carrying salmonella and antibiotic resistant E. coli and probably things like TB (recent paper showed tb transmission from raw venison cat food to cats and then to owners).
Why not avoid this risk and cook the food!!
Have any of you tried cooking the raw meat and seeing if your dogs get worse? I see dogs that are made ill by raw feeding, they have a higher chance of carrying salmonella and antibiotic resistant E. coli and probably things like TB (recent paper showed tb transmission from raw venison cat food to cats and then to owners).
Why not avoid this risk and cook the food!!
404 Error Page - 404 Error Page - University of Liverpool
www.liverpool.ac.uk
We used to feed raw, initially adding our own veg, then adding a herb mix. After 3 years I was not convinced that they were any better than on quality complete dry food or complete wet food - so we have retuned to that.
There is definitely a macho image to feeding raw, not on here, but elsewhere. Lots of hash-tag (whatever that means) as Nature intended stuff - muscle-flexing - we are all Vikings - nonsense. Then there are varying degrees of debates on feather/fur on or off - guts in or out. IMHO Nature never intended 100% pure meat - most carnivores derive a lot more than '100% meat' from their quarry.
There is definitely a macho image to feeding raw, not on here, but elsewhere. Lots of hash-tag (whatever that means) as Nature intended stuff - muscle-flexing - we are all Vikings - nonsense. Then there are varying degrees of debates on feather/fur on or off - guts in or out. IMHO Nature never intended 100% pure meat - most carnivores derive a lot more than '100% meat' from their quarry.
reloader54
Well-Known Member
I have found the exact opposite,
And while I agree with you 100% meat is not what dogs need to the exclusion of all else, but meat,bone,offal,vegetable matter,even fruit would be ingested from a typical dog pack kill, and any trace elements the dogs digestive processes are designed to extract.
I do not believe dogs were ever vegans,vegetarians, or consumers of maize,corn and all manner of bulkers used in commercial kibble type dog feeds. there are many well documented cases of deaths directly involving processed dog foods, mainly down to the need to undercut the competition and increase profits. if you choose to look you will find them and make a decision as you choose. I did, and I made my choice. I am happy with it, my vet is more than happy with the condition of my dogs and often compliments me on this.
of course there are and always be incidents of illnesses and fatalities through bad hygiene and animal husbandry.
some people [as has come to be known recently] cannot even look after the basic needs of a child of the same species as themselves, just take a look at the processed crap kids are given on a daily basis.
small wonder pets are fed on that which is "convenient" more than what is correct for that particular animal.
raw food isn't a "latest fad" dogs have been doing it since before they were conned into being mans best friend.
for the record I am not a Viking, nor do I need to portray a "macho image". nor do I subscribe to the "fur is a natural wormer" school of thought.
and neither am I looking for confrontation, or bullying anyone.
I have found the exact opposite,
And while I agree with you 100% meat is not what dogs need to the exclusion of all else, but meat,bone,offal,vegetable matter,even fruit would be ingested from a typical dog pack kill, and any trace elements the dogs digestive processes are designed to extract.
I do not believe dogs were ever vegans,vegetarians, or consumers of maize,corn and all manner of bulkers used in commercial kibble type dog feeds. there are many well documented cases of deaths directly involving processed dog foods, mainly down to the need to undercut the competition and increase profits. if you choose to look you will find them and make a decision as you choose. I did, and I made my choice. I am happy with it, my vet is more than happy with the condition of my dogs and often compliments me on this.
of course there are and always be incidents of illnesses and fatalities through bad hygiene and animal husbandry.
some people [as has come to be known recently] cannot even look after the basic needs of a child of the same species as themselves, just take a look at the processed crap kids are given on a daily basis.
small wonder pets are fed on that which is "convenient" more than what is correct for that particular animal.
raw food isn't a "latest fad" dogs have been doing it since before they were conned into being mans best friend.
for the record I am not a Viking, nor do I need to portray a "macho image". nor do I subscribe to the "fur is a natural wormer" school of thought.
and neither am I looking for confrontation, or bullying anyone.
Wow! I agree and follow most of that but have just come to my own conclusion.
Last edited:
nun_hunter
Well-Known Member
Try local butchers for "pet mince" there are a few round my way who mince all their offal, scraps, chicken carcasses etc and charge £10 for 18 1lb sticks frozen. Cheapest I've found it and no hassle.
Jonb
Member
Co
I Suppose it would be similar to trying to feed your children cereal with protein powder in it for every meal ?
In the past when we switched our dogs from dry to BARF (raw) we did notice a difference in the coat and especially the poos.
My dog is as fit as a butchers dog... as the old saying goes.
sums up my views/opinion very well.I have found the exact opposite,
And while I agree with you 100% meat is not what dogs need to the exclusion of all else, but meat,bone,offal,vegetable matter,even fruit would be ingested from a typical dog pack kill, and any trace elements the dogs digestive processes are designed to extract.
I do not believe dogs were ever vegans,vegetarians, or consumers of maize,corn and all manner of bulkers used in commercial kibble type dog feeds. there are many well documented cases of deaths directly involving processed dog foods, mainly down to the need to undercut the competition and increase profits. if you choose to look you will find them and make a decision as you choose. I did, and I made my choice. I am happy with it, my vet is more than happy with the condition of my dogs and often compliments me on this.
of course there are and always be incidents of illnesses and fatalities through bad hygiene and animal husbandry.
some people [as has come to be known recently] cannot even look after the basic needs of a child of the same species as themselves, just take a look at the processed crap kids are given on a daily basis.
small wonder pets are fed on that which is "convenient" more than what is correct for that particular animal.
raw food isn't a "latest fad" dogs have been doing it since before they were conned into being mans best friend.
for the record I am not a Viking, nor do I need to portray a "macho image". nor do I subscribe to the "fur is a natural wormer" school of thought.
and neither am I looking for confrontation, or bullying anyone.
I Suppose it would be similar to trying to feed your children cereal with protein powder in it for every meal ?
In the past when we switched our dogs from dry to BARF (raw) we did notice a difference in the coat and especially the poos.
My dog is as fit as a butchers dog... as the old saying goes.
My dog has been on raw food for about 3 years, started off on Benyfit Natural and then went onto Nutriment.
We changed him onto raw as he had a few skin issues, since he has been raw fed they seem to have gone. He really enjoys his food.
I’ll certainly have a look at some of the other suggested raw suppliers.
We changed him onto raw as he had a few skin issues, since he has been raw fed they seem to have gone. He really enjoys his food.
I’ll certainly have a look at some of the other suggested raw suppliers.
Similar threads
