Available: Deer Stalking with Jelen Deer Services £150/Day

[Milly]

Mike, as always, looking forward to the next day out with you and Dave in April. Just want to clear something up though. If I am lucky enough to shoot one of the moose or black bear that you tell me you have on the estate, I would like to know if it will it be classed as 1/A cull animal 2/ A trophy or 3/ A bloody miracle. Think I can take a stab at that one. Sorry but I couldn't resist it being the wicked person I am

Fred

Thank you for your concern mate, and you're a a trooper for helping all those other guys understand what is meant by cull animals and prices, but I'm pretty sure everyone else understood perfectly well. But thanks anyway!

PS my last post too, I'm pleased you're not hunting me like a dirty witch!! So, now we've cleared that up ........

..... Anyone up for some deer culling, £150 a day, no trophy fees?

Best regards,

Mike.

 

[ferretmanabu]

seems like a very good deal to me.

 

[243Sako]

I am really glad we have all finally got the just of it. Come to think of it im pretty sure most did in the first place anyway. Most of us on here are big boys (and girls) now and can ask questions via pm if we need to!!!!

Mike is still offering a very good deal as he was in the first place grab a stalk while you can!!

ATB

Rob
243Sako

 

[lee-stroud]

FFS! Let me make this a little clearer for the benefit of the two people that seem to not get the idea here!

A cull animal, as far as we are concerned, does not necessarily mean a yearling. It is basically ANY animal that is - in our opinion - not good enough to remain in the area (as far as OUR management criteria is concerned). Each year, our cull consists of many animals, some of which may be three or four years old. (BUT) if we believe that the animal is below average for the area, then in the interests of genetic improvement and overall good management, they will be culled/shot/call it what you will. And the guys who have lovingly parted with their £150 will be able to shoot them, with no extra charge................... Comprende?

Are you arguing over the interpretation of the word 'CULL'? Or are you just making an issue where there isn't one?

Also, the buck in the picture looks pretty dead to me! ........ But if, as you say, he is still alive, then he must be a damned heavy sleeper! (or perhaps you haven't made things clear!)

Regards,

Mike

i know this as know been put to bed but unless i read the post wrong the dead book is the rival that made bronze the the buck from the first picture!
Lee

 

[centralbeltstalker]

Cant see how this thread has been misunderstood.
chrisc asked a simple question to a simple open post.
we all know what mikes cull costs are as he stated that.
chrisc only asked if mike has a trophy price.
we all (stalkers) know that we may not be fortunate enough to meet up with a cull deer when we stalk, he asked for the price if any for his trophy animals.
going by the costs that mike advertised (very reasonable) i assume he may have wanted to know if his trophy costs where as reasonable.

 

[norma 308]

6pointer if you are running a business out of stalking then i would suggest that maybe you adjust your theory as i believe you are missing out... If you are just out to make a bit of money and manage deer for the love then this is why your adopting such principles... Mike is running a business and clearly a very successful one if you follow his work therefore this may explain why he has to think slightly more carefully about his pricing structure...

Even still i think his stalking is very good value and credit to him for not being greedy...

i concur!

 

[Paul at Fechan]

I know two things having read this thread and considered the real world as I see it.....

1) good management seeks to improve the quality of beasts through careful selection and many years of patience

2) every beast has a price

 

[Richard Parsons]

Have you got any lynx or wolf stalking going?

 

[centralbeltstalker]

Have you got any lynx or wolf stalking going?

Now thats just nasty

 

[Jelendeer]

Have you got any lynx or wolf stalking going?

Actually, the lynx died of shock after seeing the wolf eat the black bear, ............. We do have a cape buffalo though! .... You interested?

Mike

 

[smullery]

Mike,

To prove the other side of the coin.

In 2007 a friend and I booked two days Red Stag stalking in the early rut in Glen Lyon for 2009, the earliest available. £400 for a "Stag", which was basically 6 points and above that the stalker could get you on. A whole day from 0900 until dusk.

I drew the short straw and my mate had the first day. Let's say that his "trophy" isn't worth anything, BUT THE DAY was worth it..... All the testosterone sounding off the hills, and that was only the deer!

Next day was my turn, lower down the Glen. TOO MANY DEER. Difficult to stalk into all those hinds being moved by the roars of the Stags. The land dictated how we moved onto the herd. There were around 100 hinds counted "held" by one Stag and we spent three hours moving onto the herd, too many eyes.

Lunchtime and the herd laid down, chewed cud and had a snooze, as did I. Only at this point did we have the opportunity to fully glass the Stag.

The cups indicated around 14 - 16 points. A call to the factor and "if that's the one your on, your on".

I snoozed whilst the (in this case an outfitter) stood watch. An hour later the Stag stood up as close we could get to him and 100 other pairs of eyes, and a 140gr Norma Partition 6.5 x 55 did the job at 250 metres.

In the larder there was a slight problem. With head off, the carcass wouldn't raise off the ground.

I went away with a £400 Red Stag, 20 pointer. The factor wasn't aware of the beast but, the deal was the deal.

No real big grin, just a memory of a day on the only Stag we could get onto that day. I luck'd in. It really was the only deer we could move on that day.

Scottish hospitality....

Stan

 

[Jelendeer]

Mike,

To prove the other side of the coin.

In 2007 a friend and I booked two days Red Stag stalking in the early rut in Glen Lyon for 2009, the earliest available. £400 for a "Stag", which was basically 6 points and above that the stalker could get you on. A whole day from 0900 until dusk.

I drew the short straw and my mate had the first day. Let's say that his "trophy" isn't worth anything, BUT THE DAY was worth it..... All the testosterone sounding off the hills, and that was only the deer!

Next day was my turn, lower down the Glen. TOO MANY DEER. Difficult to stalk into all those hinds being moved by the roars of the Stags. The land dictated how we moved onto the herd. There were around 100 hinds counted "held" by one Stag and we spent three hours moving onto the herd, too many eyes.

Lunchtime and the herd laid down, chewed cud and had a snooze, as did I. Only at this point did we have the opportunity to fully glass the Stag.

The cups indicated around 14 - 16 points. A call to the factor and "if that's the one your on, your on".

I snoozed whilst the (in this case an outfitter) stood watch. An hour later the Stag stood up as close we could get to him and 100 other pairs of eyes, and a 140gr Norma Partition 6.5 x 55 did the job at 250 metres.

In the larder there was a slight problem. With head off, the carcass wouldn't raise off the ground.

I went away with a £400 Red Stag, 20 pointer. The factor wasn't aware of the beast but, the deal was the deal.

No real big grin, just a memory of a day on the only Stag we could get onto that day. I luck'd in. It really was the only deer we could move on that day.

Scottish hospitality....

Stan

Hi Stan,

Sounds like you and your mate had a great day each on the hill. As you say, it isn't all about the shot, or the trophy, it's about the whole experience. The trophy, once on your wall, symbolises a collection of memories, and hopefully your mate will have those same memories of a great day to look back on, so in that respect his trophy IS worth something.

All in all, you guys had a great deal, and a great experience.

Best regards

Mike.

 

[bogtrotter]

How anyone structures their prices is their business and theirs alone, provided the client knows what the cost will be they are free to pay it or not as the case may be.
One thing for sure word travels fast in the stalking world, you won't last long in this game if you are a rip off merchant.
This thing about cost raises its head again and again if the price does not suit you look elsewhere there's plenty choice
out there,but cheapest isn't always best.