T3x vs a Sako

Interesting replies guys!

The ejector issue / case hitting the scope on the 85 with long actions would worry me a little.

I think I’ll pop in and have a look at the T3Xs. Certainly a lot more options for it compared to the sakos ect. But then is it easier to just get an 85? Got a craving for a new .22-250:lol:
Mine is a .270 with a fairly chunky scope mounted low on it and I’ve never had a case hit the scope. I don’t think it’s a thing.
 
I've shot Tikkas and Sakos and TBH if it were me I would buy the Sako - they are just a bit more refined, metal mags, nicer finish etc. Both shoot great, both are accurate and both are guns for life dont get me wrong. Just if it was my money I'd spend a bit extra on the Sako.

What I would look at is how much money you need/want/are prepared to spend to get the Tikka up to Sako standards - theres naff all point in spending £1100 on the T3X hunter (for example) and then chucking £500 at it to make it more Sako-like, when you can get the 85 Hunter for a shade over £1500.

Also if you can get one heck of a lot of rifle for £1500 so I think it would be worth seeing what else you can get for your money.

EG; I saw recently Ivythorn sporting had a second hand S&L Victory in .25-06 for about £1300 and it had had I think about 60 shots through it. New those rifles are around £2.5k. Just food for thought.
 
The new Sako S20 looks to have a GRP magazine...
I've shot Tikkas and Sakos and TBH if it were me I would buy the Sako - they are just a bit more refined, metal mags, nicer finish etc. Both shoot great, both are accurate and both are guns for life dont get me wrong. Just if it was my money I'd spend a bit extra on the Sako.

What I would look at is how much money you need/want/are prepared to spend to get the Tikka up to Sako standards - theres naff all point in spending £1100 on the T3X hunter (for example) and then chucking £500 at it to make it more Sako-like, when you can get the 85 Hunter for a shade over £1500.

Also if you can get one heck of a lot of rifle for £1500 so I think it would be worth seeing what else you can get for your money.

EG; I saw recently Ivythorn sporting had a second hand S&L Victory in .25-06 for about £1300 and it had had I think about 60 shots through it. New those rifles are around £2.5k. Just food for thought.
 
I've shot Tikkas and Sakos and TBH if it were me I would buy the Sako - they are just a bit more refined, metal mags, nicer finish etc. Both shoot great, both are accurate and both are guns for life dont get me wrong. Just if it was my money I'd spend a bit extra on the Sako.

What I would look at is how much money you need/want/are prepared to spend to get the Tikka up to Sako standards - theres naff all point in spending £1100 on the T3X hunter (for example) and then chucking £500 at it to make it more Sako-like, when you can get the 85 Hunter for a shade over £1500.

Also if you can get one heck of a lot of rifle for £1500 so I think it would be worth seeing what else you can get for your money.

EG; I saw recently Ivythorn sporting had a second hand S&L Victory in .25-06 for about £1300 and it had had I think about 60 shots through it. New those rifles are around £2.5k. Just food for thought.

I agree with you very much so.

In my opinion the Schultz & Larsen is the best quality factory offering on the market. If I was buying again today I’d be going for the synthetic version.

I have come close to buying one before and I was reminded of the quality of them when I was out with a lad who had one in .308 and leaves the Sako 85 and Tikka for dead in the quality stakes.
 
I am convinced the T3 is the best action Sako have produced, even compared to early Sako or Tikka actions. Most stocks that are delivered with factory rifles are a compromise, with any rifle manufacturer. Sometimes just too much of a compromise. The aftermarket industries are designing & developing products that focus on exactly the faults/weakness of factory rifles.
The T3 has a few weak points, safety that is not every ones thing however most get on with it (there is an aftermarket fix). The pin holding the bolt stop has failed in the past but that happens only when working the bolt very hard. Trigger it self is very good compared to other factory triggers. If you can't hunt with this trigger get some practice in... not a different trigger. Magazines are down to the shooter, some can't shoot with a mag sticking out the bottom... what a lame excuse. There are a few aftermarket offerings when it comes to floor plates and mag systems.
Only other weak point on a T3 might be the slightly short action length for longer loaded long action cartridges, there is a fix for that also.
I have yet to see a factory rifle that would beat the two T3 CTR's I had/have at 100m grouping with factory ammunition. Even the Muzzle velocity of the two rifles were within 5fps. Say's something about the barrel manufacturing at the Sako plant..

edi


Oh now the T3 has weak points :eek::D
 
All this endless comparison yeah yeah blah blah, the truth is one is utilitarian Mondeo, the other is “I drive a Jag”.

That’s the only difference.

There’s currently about 25 hunting rifles in the homestead. In order of commonness, (1) Tikka, (2) Howa, (3) Sako, (4) CZ... then some odds and sods. I see absolutely no reason to be fussy as to which one I shoot, they are all equally capable. It’s like cars, good cars get you from A to B quickly and efficiently, flash cars do exactly the same but with the driver’s ego slightly inflated.
 
All this endless comparison yeah yeah blah blah, the truth is one is utilitarian Mondeo, the other is “I drive a Jag”.

That’s the only difference.

There’s currently about 25 hunting rifles in the homestead. In order of commonness, (1) Tikka, (2) Howa, (3) Sako, (4) CZ... then some odds and sods. I see absolutely no reason to be fussy as to which one I shoot, they are all equally capable. It’s like cars, good cars get you from A to B quickly and efficiently, flash cars do exactly the same but with the driver’s ego slightly inflated.


Would you rather drive 2000 miles in a Range Rover or a fiesta?
 
I'd go for Sako, assuming you are happy with how it handles for you.
I find Sakos much more refined and more pleasant to use. T3's a bit agricultural. The best thing about the basic T3 (imho) was that you were getting a lot of rifle for the money. But since the introduction of T3x the prices appear to have gone up and as soon as you start adding aftermarket stuff to it or going for pimped-out verisons, the price takes it into a different league, and suddenly you're looking at Sako, S&L, Heym and plenty of others for the same money.
They will both kill bambi. Get a rifle you fall in love with - saving a couple hundred £ here or there won't be worth it in the long run.
 
Oh now the T3 has weak points :eek::D
maybe you should have read previous posts.
I mentioned that from the beginning. Every rifle has it's flaws or features/lack of features. But every rifle has also good points, do I need to mention that also?

Now for example the S&L was thrown into the mix and that it can do everything better than a Sako, just try to buy a stainless S&L. Therefore S&L possibly has the best barrels fitted to a factory rifle, unless you want one in stainless. No rifle is perfect.
To create your own perfect rifle one is better off with a Remmy or T3, of the two the T3 is better made. These two rifles possibly have the largest amount of aftermarket parts.

edi
 
maybe you should have read previous posts.
I mentioned that from the beginning. Every rifle has it's flaws or features/lack of features. But every rifle has also good points, do I need to mention that also?

Now for example the S&L was thrown into the mix and that it can do everything better than a Sako, just try to buy a stainless S&L. Therefore S&L possibly has the best barrels fitted to a factory rifle, unless you want one in stainless. No rifle is perfect.
To create your own perfect rifle one is better off with a Remmy or T3, of the two the T3 is better made. These two rifles possibly have the largest amount of aftermarket parts.

edi

I have read all you posts in this thread and the one I started. I may have missed it.
Custom parts are out of the equation for me, as has been stated in the other thread.
 
Are you "hijacking" this thread...? :moved:

It’s all interesting and up for debate

Both will do fine. I have a T3 and I like it, no complaints. Last yr I bought a Sako 85 finnlight and I really like it, I suppose prefer it.

I think this is how I’d feel. It’s whether the tweaking of the tikka would bring it up but as folk have suggested, maybe not worthwhile for a lot of work and end up at the same price bracket at the end of the day
 
It’s all interesting and up for debate



I think this is how I’d feel. It’s whether the tweaking of the tikka would bring it up but as folk have suggested, maybe not worthwhile for a lot of work and end up at the same price bracket at the end of the day

That is the point, some are happy to the end of their days with a factory Sako (orT3 rifle). Others feel the need to improve certain things on a rifle, those would be better off with a T3 as there are more options. Many Sako rifles have been sold or changed to a T3 because of the lack of available parts for Sako. A Sako just won't reach the level of a T3 rifle due to the better design of the T3 action. Refined? yes you can get nicer factory fitted wooden stocks for Sako and they are well made however the Sako action will not come close in smoothness to a T3.
edi
 
That is the point, some are happy to the end of their days with a factory Sako (orT3 rifle). Others feel the need to improve certain things on a rifle, those would be better off with a T3 as there are more options. Many Sako rifles have been sold or changed to a T3 because of the lack of available parts for Sako. A Sako just won't reach the level of a T3 rifle due to the better design of the T3 action. Refined? yes you can get nicer factory fitted wooden stocks for Sako and they are well made however the Sako action will not come close in smoothness to a T3.
edi
Well...if I had to choose between my T3x and Finnlight 2, it would have to be the Sako.
Now...if the Tikka had a 3 lug bolt and a calibre specific action length...eeny-meeny-minee-mo???
DG
 
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