landkeeper
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i wonder is he 
Dominic Cummings clash fan or not ??
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Freeforester
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No crime to want to protect his child and family, the usual unhappy lot seeking his head on a plate, they don't realise the public aren't now quite so convinced of the strategy in any event, it'll be good to see how the left try to place blame for the economic ramifications a few months hence on the shrill message they're so desperately clinging on to and highlighting here and now.
landkeeper
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no no crime at all to want to protect his child BUT was he protecting his family ???, However if you are saying one thing and doing something totally different then expect flack and actions
No crime? He flouted the rule that he helped devise and impose on others surely? What about all those others who also wanted to protect their families by leaving cities to go to their second homes in less densely populated areas of the country.
It is only a political issue because he and Boris chose to make it one...why they did not get the best minds from all parties together to counter the national threat I don't know. But then as usual I am out of step...I thought that following the result of the National Referendum on the EU that too should have been tackled by a cross party negotiating team to devise the best deal in the interests of the country and not make it a confrontational party political issue guided by unelected bureaucrats like Cummings and all about what is good for them.
I am surprised that no mention has been made of resignation from Boris who went off to his country home at Chequers during Lockdown...what with the Scots and the UK medical advisors falling on their swords for their similar broaches of the lockdown...and now Dominic Cummings ignoring it, travelling from London at the height of its infection, while they were showing symptoms, to an area at the time with few cases....unbelievable.
Why apologise for him and pour scorn on his critics?
Alan
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Freeforester
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The best minds are to be found outwith politics on this one, the EU question and most, to be honest. Profs Geisecke and his protege Tegnal seem to know the score, Prof Sunetra Gupta's reading of the situation, increasingly shown to be the correct one was posited at the time, but was sidelined by Ferguson's doomsday scenario.
We are where we are today, some of us just see things a bit more independently of the preferred groupthink, and, as with the outcome of the virus, the 'second wave' etc, time will tell, and the worse than useless opposition will try to blame the economic catastrophe that is to unfold on the policies they themselves are right now espousing.
The right may not aye be right, but the left are near aye wrong. Cummings is probably intelligent enough to make his own mind up without having to slavishly follow clearly daft guidelines...
The basis of transmission through proximity and association are fairly clear...stay away from other people and things they have recently breathed over and handled...Cummings drove across the country with a person showing symptoms, to an area where there was little infection at the time, presumably sharing bugs at every service station stop on the way?
So you justify anybody's flouting of the "Stay at Home, Save the NHS, Save lives" mantra based on their IQ?
Whether as an independent thinker, you agree or disagree with the fairly international Lockdown response to the virus...surely Cummings is also intelligent enough to know that there might be repercussions when he chose not to follow (even in spirit) the rules imposed on others, which were laid down by the PM / government to whom he is chief adviser?
Alan
landkeeper
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the bit that ****es me off is we were all told to stay away from parents with our kids ! im sure there were are will be 100s of families who would have loved some help if one or other parent got sick but no we all had to stay home and stay awayThe basis of transmission through proximity and association are fairly clear...stay away from other people and things they have recently breathed over and handled...Cummings drove across the country with a person showing symptoms, to an area where there was little infection at the time, presumably sharing bugs at every service station stop on the way?
So you justify anybody's flouting of the "Stay at Home, Save the NHS, Save lives" mantra based on their IQ?
Whether you agree or disagree with the fairly international Lockdown response to the virus...surely Cummings is also intelligent enough to know that there might be repercussions when he chose not to follow (even in spirit) the rules imposed on others, which were laid down by the PM / government to whom he is chief adviser?
Alan
paul o'
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Don't know about a clash fan but he and all the rest of the Parasites are defo Cash fan's after being awarding an extra £10K To work from home on top of the £26K they can already claim ??
wish someone would give me the funds for new Laptops and printers ?? Bunch of C*88's .
wish someone would give me the funds for new Laptops and printers ?? Bunch of C*88's .
Freeforester
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Assuming one is sufficiently intelligent to recognise that two parties independently isolating are unable to pass the virus on to one another after the initial safe quarantine time has been exceeded, the advice is somewhat otiose, no? So if you and your kinfolk holed up elsewhere have been careful, there's no reason not to go and give them a hug.
Trouble is, many are insufficently intelligent, and/or very possibly insufficiently careful.
Trouble is, many are insufficently intelligent, and/or very possibly insufficiently careful.
Hereford
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Be fair - it was his mother’s birthday party! Perhaps being observed dancing in her back garden by a neighbour didn’t help?
I am impressed though by the ‘protective ring’ the Tories are building around him..... second time lucky, I suppose.
Presumably that is how he caught it from his wife, before, during or after their trip. Let us hope they were sufficiently careful to prevent collateral damage on the journey and around their destination.
Reminds me of another teflon/bad penny who was the then PM's favourite...Peter Mandelson.
Alan
Frankly, it's just another example of the media getting excited about something that's not worth bothering about.
Cheers
Bruce
Cheers
Bruce
FrenchieBoy
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I'm sorry but he should have known better and should either resign or be sacked!
You simply can not go round making one rule up for the country in general (Us lesser folks) and then say it does not apply to Government ministers!
You simply can not go round making one rule up for the country in general (Us lesser folks) and then say it does not apply to Government ministers!
Freeforester
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"So what you're saying is.."The basis of transmission through proximity and association are fairly clear...stay away from other people and things they have recently breathed over and handled...Cummings drove across the country with a person showing symptoms, to an area where there was little infection at the time, presumably sharing bugs at every service station stop on the way?
So you justify anybody's flouting of the "Stay at Home, Save the NHS, Save lives" mantra based on their IQ?
Whether as an independent thinker, you agree or disagree with the fairly international Lockdown response to the virus...surely Cummings is also intelligent enough to know that there might be repercussions when he chose not to follow (even in spirit) the rules imposed on others, which were laid down by the PM / government to whom he is chief adviser?
Alan
Interesting to note that it is male, overweight, elderly type 2 diabetes candidates that seem to be at most risk; USA and U.K. being pretty much tops on that metric. Sure, we can and perhaps will all eventually get our rub, Sweden has 20-30% herd immunity already, we are at something like 1-2% according to the calculations being put forward at the moment, but we can park the accuracy of all that for now; the question is can the country afford to behave like Scotland, and cost be damned, or like England must we embrace the easing off and accept the small risk of (0.1-0.3%) mortality, which nobody is forcing anyone to come out of self-imposed lockdown to 'risk', but nor should they force anyone to accept that their future prospects and those of their families MUST be trashed for avoidance of a virus that is of relatively minor danger to the population as a whole.
75+% over the age of 75, most with co-morbidities - used to be called something like the natural order of things, iirc
I'll not trouble you with the overall figures of deaths expressed as percentages of the population as a whole,
Spot any trends here? Rural v Urban? Decreasing rates of infection?
Time to think of better, less trivial things to concern ourselves with, eg how to kickstart the economy and help 'save the NHS'.
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So what other laws and regulations don’t apply to him but are enforced upon us lowly peasants?
(And would that include firearm regulations?)
(And would that include firearm regulations?)
No. Hence my smiley.
I repeat my point...whether or not one agrees with the lockdown strategy is irrelevant, it was the order of the day in the UK. Those in office should set the example not undermine it. "Not only must Justice be done; it must also be seen to be done."
As one who is a key part of the government who imposed the ruling, he chose to ignore it...it should not be with impunity.
Why should he not self-isolate his family at home but instead travel taking the infection elsewhere as he did?
Alan
Well Boris you’ve decided it’s a white wash.
Therefore talk to the hand cause the face ain’t listening no more!!!!
At least Nicky acted with a bit more integrity.
Therefore talk to the hand cause the face ain’t listening no more!!!!
At least Nicky acted with a bit more integrity.
Bavarianbrit
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Pass the big brush.
