Is this a replacement thread for Brexit?
So now that we have completely left the EU...
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Under EU regs it wouldn’t have been allowed to
Hopefully, I'll be in the Brecon Beacons. I'll give you a wave.
I wish Scotland would..
CarlW
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Yes. One meets some right f'kin retards driving on the 'North Coast 500'. Mars a beautiful part of the world.
The one firm conclusion you can draw from all Brexit threads is that, by and large, neither side has a monopoly on ignoring inconvenient information...
My inconvenience rating due to Brexit currently stands @ 0. And due to Covid - 19 about 110%
Fines aren't the only thing to worry about when you speed.....Look on the bright side. At least if you're now caught by a roadside camera speeding across the EU in your camper van they can no longer send you the fine
No more speeding fines in post for UK cars in France
Full Brexit means the exchange of speeding drivers' details has stopped. UK-plated cars topped the list of foreign-plated vehicles flashed in the latest figures availablewww.connexionfrance.com
Not a monopoly, but perhaps a preponderance.
The thing that always struck me as particularly odd is the fervour with which remainers would deny the truth of information published by the EU.
dartmoordog
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Like a referendum.
Indeed.
Where ignoring inconvenient facts was a salient feature...
But - as you so rightly point out, it’s done. In 20 years or so as we pick through the post-Covid wreckage, we might have some idea of whether Brexit made things better, worse or largely no different.
My guess is that it won’t be a catastrophe, but it similarly won’t work any miracles. It will be an entirely unremarkable mediocrity.
You still seem too be assuming, like so many, how shall I say, sceptics, that people voted Leave in the belief that there would be some immediate material advantage or because their lives would be "better" in some way.
It's an argument we've been hearing for four and a half years and it seems to be based on assuming why people voted leave, or only voicing the question in some remain echo chamber rather than asking leavers themselves. I don't know anyone who voted leave because they thought there'd be some instant tangible dividend. They voted leave, as did I, because they found living under bad law imposed on us by people we couldn't elect, objectionable and unsustainable. They didn't want to live under a European oligarchy, they wanted the UK to govern ourselves, for good or ill. It's really just as simple as that.
What material benefit accrues from a return to national self-governance will depend on which governments we elect and how the infrastructure of government is reformed and strengthened after 47 years of contracting out its responsibilities overseas.
At risk of referencing my property thread, it's like selling a tumbledown house that isn't working for you anymore and of which you're only a co-owner, and buying your own pristine building plot which is yours entirely to do with as you want.
Some will bemoan the move, saying they were settled in the old place and even if it was falling apart they knew where everything was and at least they had somewhere to park and a door to close behind them every night, and they can't bear the thought of all that packing and upheaval.
Others see immense opportunity.
But the family made a democratic decision, we've done it, we've moved and we can all either pitch in and make a contribution, and thereby have a say in what the new political home is going to look like, or we can sulk and get in everyone else's way.
Bavarianbrit
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So better to be ruled by home grown winkers than Brussels winkers then?
Great move forward that was. But hey ho, done is done and I am over it.
5 inches of snow laying on the ground over here and clear blue sky what's not to like?
Great move forward that was. But hey ho, done is done and I am over it.
5 inches of snow laying on the ground over here and clear blue sky what's not to like?
So better to be ruled by home grown winkers than Brussels winkers then? Answer at least we can vote the home grown winkers out.
5 inches of snow laying on the ground over here and clear blue sky what's not to like? Answer COVID-19.
Bravo!!
Not "Well done"?Bravo!!
Bravo!!
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JCS
I love European culture/history/language and food, its amazing!
Not so the European union.
Simples!!
john_little
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It’s a shame, if not a criminal act, that those cultures are being watered down by the influx of others due mostly to the greed of so few. If the people behind such entities as the EU had helped the less fortunate countries more we would be able to enjoy their cultures too.
Precisely. I like the very fact Europe is culturally, economically and politically diverse. That it is composed of many countries with all sorts of subtle and not so subtle differences. It's what makes the place interesting and how it came to be the cradle of western civilisation.
The continent's strength is it's breadth of difference, not some bland, artificial universality imposed in the name of politics .
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