So now that we have completely left the EU...

Mike, this is going to be a bit of a long one, & OTT, but probably needs clarification, otherwise folks may think I'm some vegan animal rights person & look for ways to bash me, so here goes. I am a farmer, & as such, a custodian of the land & I am responsible therefore of the welfare for the creatures that I share it with. I don't shoot mallard, grey partridges or hares anymore, they have declined hugely to predation over the last few years. Don't shoot tame pheasants either This farm has had a permeant resident population of about 5 Roe does, 1 fine buck, plus a few non resident travellers. The travellers & offspring keep me in venison for the winter, but I always try to keep 5-7 does on the place. I have Chinese Water deer & Muntjac they are just good food & culled hard. We have a travelling herd of 30 -60 red deer, which pass through the farm as regularly as clockwork when the clocks go forward & back. Reds don't interest me very much, I find the meat almost indigestable, they are only here for a short time. I only kill what I eat, but I understand the problems all too well with deer overpopulation. Two years ago the neighbouring farmer gave permission to a so called professional deer culler. The first thing he did was to install a high seat 180 yards from my boundary, the the slaughter started. Every day. And now I have 1 doe left, the fine buck has gone, the shooting continues. I pulled the farmer up about it, mindful of the fact that what he was doing was perfectly legal, & within his rights, he said they were on his land & could do what he likes. I told him he was depriving me of an important food source, he said I could buy one off him. I accept that everyone farms for different reasons, he farms for money, I farm for lifestyle. But what he doesn't understand are the repercussions of his actions, next year I will install a feed hopper 180yds from the wood he releases his pheasants in, sit in my truck with a silenced .22 & remove every single pheasant from his wood, leaving him just one. Meanwhile the doe that was left gave birth to twins, both females, I immediately removed every fox from the area to safeguard them. They are now half grown still with mother, & everyday I open the curtains of my bedroom, I see them standing on the lawn. It fills my heart with joy. So in answer to your questions, No, I won't be shooting does or bucks in the immediate future. Thanks for your interest.
PS to bring this back on subject, maybe we should all be aware of the problems that lead up to Brexit & continue after, & the repercussions of our actions. Peace. FG.
 
I just watched on TV catch-up here in Germany a programme on WDR ref the Brexit negotiations.
I had not known this. Was it common knowledge in the UK? Here below is the wiki clarification.
A company called The Brexit Party Limited was incorporated with Companies House on 23 November 2018. It was formally announced on 20 January 2019 by former UKIP economics spokesperson Catherine Blaiklock, who served as the party's initial leader.[20] On 5 February 2019, it was registered with the United Kingdom Electoral Commission to run candidates in any English, Scottish, Welsh and European Union elections.[21]

So a Limited company is not a political party as far as I am aware. Richard Trice stated in an interview on this programme that they took most of their Sponsorship from interested parties (big companies).
Was Joe Public sold a crock??
 
VAT on goods exported from EU countries to non-EU countries is charged at 0%.
VAT in Finland for example, is 24%, but now 0% if exported to the UK.
UK VAT will be charged at 20% at the moment, I presume.
 
I just watched on TV catch-up here in Germany a programme on WDR ref the Brexit negotiations.
I had not known this. Was it common knowledge in the UK? Here below is the wiki clarification.
A company called The Brexit Party Limited was incorporated with Companies House on 23 November 2018. It was formally announced on 20 January 2019 by former UKIP economics spokesperson Catherine Blaiklock, who served as the party's initial leader.[20] On 5 February 2019, it was registered with the United Kingdom Electoral Commission to run candidates in any English, Scottish, Welsh and European Union elections.[21]

So a Limited company is not a political party as far as I am aware. Richard Trice stated in an interview on this programme that they took most of their Sponsorship from interested parties (big companies).
Was Joe Public sold a crock??
Total non story. Something of a shame they couldn't have competent journalists research the programme.
Also registered as companies are interests of, inter alia:
The Scottish Labour Party, the English Labour Party, various Labour constituency parties; the Conservative Party; various Conservative and Liberal Democrats clubs, the Liberal Democrats party; etc.

You get the idea.....evidently, whoever dig this up didn't have the slightest understanding of what they were presenting, nor interest in establishing anything approaching truth.
 
I just watched on TV catch-up here in Germany a programme on WDR ref the Brexit negotiations.
I had not known this. Was it common knowledge in the UK? Here below is the wiki clarification.
A company called The Brexit Party Limited was incorporated with Companies House on 23 November 2018. It was formally announced on 20 January 2019 by former UKIP economics spokesperson Catherine Blaiklock, who served as the party's initial leader.[20] On 5 February 2019, it was registered with the United Kingdom Electoral Commission to run candidates in any English, Scottish, Welsh and European Union elections.[21]

So a Limited company is not a political party as far as I am aware. Richard Trice stated in an interview on this programme that they took most of their Sponsorship from interested parties (big companies).
Was Joe Public sold a crock??
No.Not really.Its obvious youre desperate to show brexit in a bad light but a little research next time maybe?
 
I just watched on TV catch-up here in Germany a programme on WDR ref the Brexit negotiations.

Leader
Chairman
Founders

Was Joe Public sold a crock??
BB. Brexit is done. It is time now to move on. Anything else is just to no point. In five years, or ten perhaps, maybe, then is the time to look back.

And in five years maybe the UK may have done nation by nation "free movement" deals with countries such as France, Germany, Benelux and maybe Spain and Portugal that as far as that goes we and they regain what was lost in terms of rights to work and/or live that presently have been lost.

Certainly in France their Senate Member one Senator Poniatowski has proposed such as a bi-lateral Anglo-French accord. It should be for you perhaps to see what could be done to advance a similar Anglo-German accord? Maybe via the connections of the German MEP David McAllister?

I respect what you hold as your opinions. I have worked, self-employed, in France since 1999 and had a residency there from 2002-2006 and again 2015-2019. And yes returned to the UK owing to the implications of a "no deal" Brexit. And to be ahead of that result should it have happened. But finding and highlighting negatives from what is now both de jure and, since 31 December 2021, also de facto is navel gazing.

The need now is to seek and win back mutual "free movement" agreements on a state by state basis with those nation states where both peoples see benefits. And that to my mind is only with those nations that were EU Members before the EU 2004 Fifth Enlargement. And none other that joined on or since that date.
 
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You can't have free movement of people between the UK and one EU region (let's be honest, we can't call them countries or member states any more) without having by default free movement with the whole of the EU.

Free movement of people was always an economically nonsensical and nakedly political devise. Carefully managed free movement of labour would be a different matter, meaning any citizen within participating states is eligible to apply for work in other participating states but without full rights of citizenship or permanent residency and no relocation without a job to go to. These arrangements only work between states with broadly similar populations and living standards.
In which case, why would the UK have a free movement treaty with an EU region (and therefore with the whole EU)? The regional economies of the EU are too varied with too many problems that would result in the poorest areas of the bloc exporting their unemployment to us, which is exactly what happen when we a member of the EU, and a large part of the reason we voted to leave. It would make more sense to have a freedom of labour treaty with comparable economies within the Anglosphere, such as Australia, New Zealand and Canada. I believe this idea is already being worked on.
 
You can't have free movement of people between the UK and one EU region (let's be honest, we can't call them countries or member states any more) without having by default free movement with the whole of the EU.
Actually it already exists. Certain non-EU nationals have free movement rights in respect of certain individual EU member states. And a number of EU nations have that arrangement on a bi-lateral basis with third party non-EU states. The most obvious being that which the UK and the Irish Republic have had in place since 1922. "Brits" still have free movement in respect of the Irish Republic even though the UK is no longer in the EU of which, of course, the Irish Republic is.
 
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Actually it already exists. Certain non-EU nationals have free movement rights in respect of certain individual EU member states. And a number of EU nations have that arrangement on a bi-lateral basis with third party non-EU states. The most obvious being that which the UK and the Irish Republic have had in place since 1922. "Brits" still have free movement in respect of the Irish Republic even though the UK is no longer in the EU of which, of course, the Irish Republic is.
I am really not naval gazing, I don't care about it anymore but it was presented here on a reputable TV channel as important facts so I thought I would watch it, I was not aware that all political parties are limited companies, Conservative party due to their limited abilities perhaps :)
Sorry to all as I have now broken my NY resolution.
 
"I don't shoot Doe's or Hinds" No qualifying statement, Just "I don't shoot Doe's or Hinds"..... Makes it sound like you have some impediment re shooting females.
Don't be rediculous, this is a deerstalking forum, there would only be a good reason not to shoot Doe's. Might require a little thought sometimes, but its not that difficult.
 
Mike, this is going to be a bit of a long one, & OTT, but probably needs clarification, otherwise folks may think I'm some vegan animal rights person & look for ways to bash me, so here goes. I am a farmer, & as such, a custodian of the land & I am responsible therefore of the welfare for the creatures that I share it with. I don't shoot mallard, grey partridges or hares anymore, they have declined hugely to predation over the last few years. Don't shoot tame pheasants either This farm has had a permeant resident population of about 5 Roe does, 1 fine buck, plus a few non resident travellers. The travellers & offspring keep me in venison for the winter, but I always try to keep 5-7 does on the place. I have Chinese Water deer & Muntjac they are just good food & culled hard. We have a travelling herd of 30 -60 red deer, which pass through the farm as regularly as clockwork when the clocks go forward & back. Reds don't interest me very much, I find the meat almost indigestable, they are only here for a short time. I only kill what I eat, but I understand the problems all too well with deer overpopulation. Two years ago the neighbouring farmer gave permission to a so called professional deer culler. The first thing he did was to install a high seat 180 yards from my boundary, the the slaughter started. Every day. And now I have 1 doe left, the fine buck has gone, the shooting continues. I pulled the farmer up about it, mindful of the fact that what he was doing was perfectly legal, & within his rights, he said they were on his land & could do what he likes. I told him he was depriving me of an important food source, he said I could buy one off him. I accept that everyone farms for different reasons, he farms for money, I farm for lifestyle. But what he doesn't understand are the repercussions of his actions, next year I will install a feed hopper 180yds from the wood he releases his pheasants in, sit in my truck with a silenced .22 & remove every single pheasant from his wood, leaving him just one. Meanwhile the doe that was left gave birth to twins, both females, I immediately removed every fox from the area to safeguard them. They are now half grown still with mother, & everyday I open the curtains of my bedroom, I see them standing on the lawn. It fills my heart with joy. So in answer to your questions, No, I won't be shooting does or bucks in the immediate future. Thanks for your interest.
PS to bring this back on subject, maybe we should all be aware of the problems that lead up to Brexit & continue after, & the repercussions of our actions. Peace. FG.
I am totally fascinated!! I would love to know how you will remove every pheasant and leave just one. It would also be of interest to know how you have that supreme knowledge of knowing that you have removed every fox from the area.
I can think of a great many keepers, particularly grouse men who would give a lot to acquire that knowledge. I have friends who kill them every other night and they still struggle to get them all.
C'mon tell us your secrets.🤭🤭
 
In open lowland farmland with a thermal, its not that hard. Scanning a 1sq mile area on a pushbike doesn't take long. Foxes are creatures of habit, Game cams & Bakers meaty chunks seems to work well, as do wires in tramlines that go round the headlands. Any vacuum created soon gets recolonised, but it was a case of keeping em out till the fawns were about 6 weeks old. Grouse keepers have my sympathy, the terrain is extremely difficult, so is spotting them let alone getting near enough to shoot is extremely problematic. We have had similar results years ago when we had Grey Partridges on the farm, but with thermal & night vision the the job is a lot easier. Fox Magpie & Crow removal was essential during the nesting season to safeguard the survival of these wonderful birds. Ever heard of a pheasant trap? & a good mix of kibbled grains, with scented oils. If you listen at roosting time you will soon know if there are pheasants in a wood. If you roast sesame seeds in a pan with some herrings & oil you have a fairly good attractant. Any more questions, feel free to ask.
 
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I genuinely cannot believe he keeps going on about it! BREXIT is done, finished, complete, gees give it a break Bb.
It's literally only just started! It's been talked about for almost 5 years with the what its and maybes but now it's only just begun.

Let's see all the promises that were made lived up to and how much better off we will all be. I'd love nothing more than to be better off than in the EU and have a brighter future for my kids. I can't wait for less red tape, an extra £350million a week back into the UK economy (we seriously need it right now), better trade deals with the USA and every other country but on our terms not the EU's, having our sovereignty and all that brings us.

Of course the replies to this post won't just include the words "remoaner, snowflake, move on, get over it, you lost" because instead they'll have coherent retorts about the benefits that will actually happen over the next 12 months, 5 years and 10 years.
 
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