Salmond v Sturgeon
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Rubbish. So the only logical conclusion is a totalitarian world government. And who runs that? Who elects it? How would voters possibly have any kind of accountable representation? And where do you think the factionalism, the nationalism, would go - evaporate overnight? As if. So you would have to invent a new word. Instead of blaming all ills on the meaningless catch-all term of nationalism, you have to call it anti-globalism because you've abolished the word nation. But only the word. All the the old allegiances, loyalties, the sense of blood, place and belonging would remain unchanged, they would just be disenfranchised and go underground to become shadowy and destructive with catastrophic consequences for endless strife and conflict that could only be quelled by authoritarianism. The concept of pernicious "nationalism" you have in your head, is created and stoked by supranationalism, not solved by it. The EU is a demonstration on a smaller scale of precisely that flawed process. It is why we left and it is why others will leave.
There is nothing wrong with the concept of the nation and of national belonging. It's the natural default unit of international politics provided all nations respect the right of others to exist and live as they choose.
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bobthedug
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Quote of the day:
"The English are putting up with Scottish dependence and periodic hissy fits because of a deep emotional commitment to the Union by a succession of British leaders.
"That is an emotion I fully share, yet I also believe that independence is exactly what Scotland needs in order to rid the birthplace of Adam Smith of socialism once and for all - after a brutal but necessary learning experience, like Slovakia's."
So this is dead in the water/going nowhere?
What a surprise!
K
What a surprise!
K
Freeforester
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“So this is dead in the water/going nowhere?”
Er, sorry Klenchblaize, but the committee only ‘strain each and every sinew’ to serve us on a Wednesday...
On a brighter note: it’s Wednesday!
Er, sorry Klenchblaize, but the committee only ‘strain each and every sinew’ to serve us on a Wednesday...
On a brighter note: it’s Wednesday!
To return to the original subject..... The boss retuned from work last night and we were talking about this Salmond/Sturgeon "inquiry" .....( she was doing her best diversional therapy to stop me shouting at the daily propaganda from the snivelling liar that is wee jimmy krankie that was being regurgitated on the TV).... Anyway..... One other point in the never ending delays/prevarications/holdups/obfuscations that had passed me by is the simple fact that the Scottish Parliament goes into "Purdah" from the 25th of March in the run up to the election for the new bunch of free loaders - sorry , valuable representatives of the people - This of course means that there should be no government business until after election day. The cynical amongst us may be thinking that this plays well into nippy sweetie's cunning plan NOT to answer anything that may drop her or her partner in the smelly stuff. Added to that, a significant number of the older MSP's are going off into the sunset to spend more time with their bank accounts and as such are unlikely to want to appear at a mere committee when this dynamic inquiry resumes....... The feeling of a complete whitewash is lingering at the back of my mind as Teflon Sturgeon will have a new lot of MSP witless wonders to impress and the usual gullible press members to play with.
Just had a response to a letter I sent regarding the English having a say in Scottish Independence vote;
The referendum on Scottish independence in 2014 was legal, fair and decisive and the people of Scotland voted by a significant margin to remain part of the United Kingdom. The Edinburgh Agreement committed both the UK and Scottish governments to respect the referendum’s outcome. The Prime Minister wrote to the First Minister of Scotland in January 2020 to confirm he cannot agree to any request for a transfer of power from the UK Parliament to the Scottish Parliament that would lead to further independence referendums.
So I cant have a vote - apparently
The referendum on Scottish independence in 2014 was legal, fair and decisive and the people of Scotland voted by a significant margin to remain part of the United Kingdom. The Edinburgh Agreement committed both the UK and Scottish governments to respect the referendum’s outcome. The Prime Minister wrote to the First Minister of Scotland in January 2020 to confirm he cannot agree to any request for a transfer of power from the UK Parliament to the Scottish Parliament that would lead to further independence referendums.
So I cant have a vote - apparently
But is the wee Sturgeon off the hook as I sought to suggest in post #87?
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Freeforester
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No, she will still have to answer any specific charges made against her relating to infringments of the ministerial code ( - three at the last count), with any single infringement/breach being notionally a resignation matter, if a) the code is to have any meaning, and b) if the minister/transgressor involved has any shred of er, honour. So not off the hook, but, to continue on the piscatorial theme, not yet at the net and/or awaiting the ‘priest’.
Foxyboy43
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Foxyboy43
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It is starting to get very interesting! BBC tonight:-
“MSPs on Holyrood's management group have agreed that a controversial submission to the inquiry by the former first minister can be published.
The submission accuses his successor, Nicola Sturgeon, of misleading parliament.”
Brace yourselves!
“MSPs on Holyrood's management group have agreed that a controversial submission to the inquiry by the former first minister can be published.
The submission accuses his successor, Nicola Sturgeon, of misleading parliament.”
Brace yourselves!
Freeforester
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Did Nicola Sturgeon break the ministerial code?
That is the question an independent investigation has been tasked with answering.
www.bbc.co.uk
There’s nane ever feared that the truth wad be telt, but them wha the truth wad indict...
Unless it is mentioned on BBC Radio 4’s “Today” programme tomorrow morning I refuse to believe this is going anywhere but am more than happy to be proved wrong.It is starting to get very interesting! BBC tonight:-
“MSPs on Holyrood's management group have agreed that a controversial submission to the inquiry by the former first minister can be published.
The submission accuses his successor, Nicola Sturgeon, of misleading parliament.”
Brace yourselves!
K
Freeforester
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Come come, Klenchblaize, you know by now, surely, the BBC only cover news which is felt to be ’unpalatable’ to their particular agenda on a ‘just in time’ basis, on the hope that it gets overlooked or otherwise lost in all the other noise. Tuesday at the earliest for the National broadcaster, I’d imagine, Wednesday morning is more probable.
