Wild Boar equivelant of DSC/ reading materials

[Brave Echo Niner]

Hi All,

Just thought I would pick the collective brains of you about education into wild boar and their ecology.
Having watched videos of the driven boar abroad it stumps me how they manage to recognise the sexes and ages in such a quick time. With boar being a near certainty around the UK in the future I feel it may be worth taking some time to learn the ecology and general knowledge of these creatures earlier, rather than only when its necessary.

Has anyone found any good reading material and/or courses similar to DSC for boar?

Kind regards,

Ben

 

[Roedeer 1962]

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[CarlW]

I believe @Roestalker39 is lobbying BASC to develop BSC1, BSC2, and BSC3. I'm not sure myself, but he seems very keen.

 

[timbrayford]

NGO are running courses on this - anyone know where I can get a copy of the boar target from?

Events | The National Gamekeepers Organisation

The National Gamekeepers Organisation represents the gamekeepers of England & Wales promoting gamekeeping, helping gamekeepers and ensuring high standard

www.nationalgamekeepers.org.uk

 

[Roestalker39]

I believe @Roestalker39 is lobbying BASC to develop BSC1, BSC2, and BSC3. I'm not sure myself, but he seems very keen.

Indeed the more pieces of paper we have the less threats to shooting there will be ................................ To paraphrase a recent pro stalkers post ( and training provider ) “ nobody should have an fac with out Having bsc 1 , 2 & 3

 

[243varmint]

Wild boar best practice guides management

www.wild-boar.org.uk

Have a quick look here.

 

[Jagare]

Vildsvin , beteende och jakt by Mikael Tham. Only in Swedish but you get to learn about wild boar behavior and learn to read Swedish at the same time

 

[Bavarianbrit]

FYI

 

[Roedeer 1962]

Wild boar best practice guides management

www.wild-boar.org.uk

Have a quick look here.

interesting varmint243

 

[243varmint]

It's not going to tell you how to identify a keiler, sow or juveniles.

 

[Roedeer 1962]

It's not going to tell you how to identify a keiler, sow or juveniles.

NO BUT ITS A GOOD STARTING POINT

 

[Jagare]

Wild boar best practice guides management

www.wild-boar.org.uk

Have a quick look here.

The shot placement page needs re writing. Heart lung shot boar can cover a fair bit of ground before they expire. Sight up the middle of the front leg half way up the body and they will drop to shot. Frontal brain shot . behind the ear every time. I'm not going to risk a boar making of with a snout, jaw wound.

 

[243varmint]

The shot placement page needs re writing. Heart lung shot boar can cover a fair bit of ground before they expire. Sight up the middle of the front leg half way up the body and they will drop to shot. Frontal brain shot . behind the ear every time. I'm not going to risk a boar making of with a snout, jaw wound.

I had a quick glance through it after posting and to be honest thought the same thing ref shot placement.
Better to pin them down quick if you're shooting them over here at night.

 

[Sash]

Having watched videos of the driven boar abroad it stumps me how they manage to recognise the sexes and ages in such a quick time. With boar being a near certainty around the UK in the future I feel it may be worth taking some time to learn the ecology and general knowledge of these creatures earlier, rather than only when its necessary.

1) It is always drummed into you at the shoot briefings I attend: “never shoot the lead animal: that will be the matriarch, upon whom all the others rely (especially the babies)”
2) Some shoots may have a trophy fee for big kielers: that tends to set the heart and wallet racing. So, if in doubt, don’t shoot a big one unless you can afford it!
3) Unlike on the Continent, I don’t think think that we will be shooting boar in the UK for sport (and hence conservation of a breeding stock) but, instead for pest eradication. So I suspect that any rules on which boar we can shoot, and different seasons etc, will make Muntjac look pampered and protected. I don’t know how to adapt “if its brown, it’s down” to boar, but I suspect that some version of “shoot any you see, wherever you can” will be the name of the game, given the damage they do, and the threat of disease transmission.
4) If driven (which it wont be in the UK: look at countless threads on here), then big bullets have a quality of their own. At a baited station, your normal deer rifle. The diagrams are interesting for shot placement.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

My .44 special with home loads is nice to have in the backpack too.

 

[mereside]

1) It is always drummed into you at the shoot briefings I attend: “never shoot the lead animal: that will be the matriarch, upon whom all the others rely (especially the babies)”
2) Some shoots may have a trophy fee for big kielers: that tends to set the heart and wallet racing. So, if in doubt, don’t shoot a big one unless you can afford it!
3) Unlike on the Continent, I don’t think think that we will be shooting boar in the UK for sport (and hence conservation of a breeding stock) but, instead for pest eradication. So I suspect that any rules on which boar we can shoot, and different seasons etc, will make Muntjac look pampered and protected. I don’t know how to adapt “if its brown, it’s down” to boar, but I suspect that some version of “shoot any you see, wherever you can” will be the name of the game, given the damage they do, and the threat of disease transmission.
4) If driven (which it wont be in the UK: look at countless threads on here), then big bullets have a quality of their own. At a baited station, your normal deer rifle. The diagrams are interesting for shot placement.

The trouble with shooting any boar is you get the opposite of what you want in terms of management.
Shooting a the dominant sows only leads to problems, it’s the sow that controls the group, she keeps in check the younger ones in terms of many things from seasons and breeding to feeding, you then get numbers spiral and also more damage so shooting correctly helps you deal with them. Regards Wayne

 

[timbrayford]

This is the target for the boar certificate shooting test

 

[Sash]

The trouble with shooting any boar is you get the opposite of what you want in terms of management.
Shooting a the dominant sows only leads to problems, it’s the sow that controls the group, she keeps in check the younger ones in terms of many things from seasons and breeding to feeding, you then get numbers spiral and also more damage so shooting correctly helps you deal with them. Regards Wayne

I totally agree: that's why I quoted the golden rule: "never shoot the lead animal...."
I just can't help feeling that, given their status in the UK as an illegally-released/escaped species, there will never be any officially-sanctioned rules concerning the quarry.

 

[mereside]

I totally agree: that's why I quoted the golden rule: "never shoot the lead animal...."
I just can't help feeling that, given their status in the UK as an illegally-released/escaped species, there will never be any officially-sanctioned rules concerning the quarry.

No but I see loads of pics on fb and all over with posts showing so much damage then when you see the animals they are shooting there is no wonder, it’s not just the lead sow but other dominant older sows all play a role, These animals are a tight unit all having roles and the more people understand the better they will be. Here in the Uk it’s everyone for themselves, when I did talks for the sga in Scotland it was so apparent that know body works together same down south, deer are one thing to manage but boar are so different and here people have real issues from learning from people in Europe who know how things are. Regards Wayne

 

[Bavarianbrit]

We could get pikeys to do the driving / beating so that accidental shootings never get reported. Brown envelope sir?