Are big game doubles going down in price?

[mchughcb]

This week I was offered a cheapish Krieghoff 470NE and a Blaser S2 500NE. I'm undecided. I asked a mate and he said the prices are plumeting as the African safari industry is suffering and people can't get abroad. Anybody else noticing it.

 

[8x57]

A good time to buy perhaps?

 

[Nkawu]

This week I was offered a cheapish Krieghoff 470NE and a Blaser S2 500NE. I'm undecided. I asked a mate and he said the prices are plumeting as the African safari industry is suffering and people can't get abroad. Anybody else noticing it.

What is cheapish if you don’t mind me asking?

 

[mchughcb]

What is cheapish if you don’t mind me asking?

About 4000 quid. I held the kreighoff yesterday. Very well built and great stopping gun.

 

[Fabnosh]

I’ve not noticed any trend particularly. There are always guns for sale precipitated by some sad changes in circumstances but generally it’s a pretty stable market. If you see a good gun at a good price, I’d grab it.

FN

 

[Sonicdmb73]

This week I was offered a cheapish Krieghoff 470NE and a Blaser S2 500NE. I'm undecided. I asked a mate and he said the prices are plumeting as the African safari industry is suffering and people can't get abroad. Anybody else noticing it.

I would suppose that supply and demand would account for some price drop.
The other being delayed and or cancelled trips. Where the owner might have thought to use the rifle on the trip and then sell it on at little if any loss.
I suppose at the moment you are basically buying something that you can’t say when you will get to use it.

 

[mchughcb]

I would suppose that supply and demand would account for some price drop.
The other being delayed and or cancelled trips. Where the owner might have thought to use the rifle on the trip and then sell it on at little if any loss.
I suppose at the moment you are basically buying something that you can’t say when you will get to use it.

I'd actually use it. Mainly for competition though.

 

[Sonicdmb73]

I'd actually use it. Mainly for competition though.

I would think that unlike some other firearms. The market for double rifles (at the moment at least) is a buyer’s one.
Nice if you can justify buying one (not sure I could) and better still if you have an excuse to use it.

 

[Alistair]

They don't seem to be dropping much in the US at least.

I'm moving out there for work, so now I don't have to deal with stupid UK gun laws I'm looking for a .470NE double to have a play with. Because why not?

The Chapuis or Merkel options aren't terrible value, but I wouldn't call them a bargain. Not significantly cheaper this year than last either, going by the sold ads. I'd probably go for a Kreighoff at £4000 equivalent if offered. @mchughcb, Got any pictures?

 

[mchughcb]

No sorry was picking up my blaser. So had my hands full.

 

[norfolk shooter]

This week I was offered a cheapish Krieghoff 470NE and a Blaser S2 500NE. I'm undecided. I asked a mate and he said the prices are plumeting as the African safari industry is suffering and people can't get abroad. Anybody else noticing it.

At 4K I will have it if you dont. Doubles are not going down in price they hold value like an old Aston Martin and go up the older they get. I have one in 416 Rigby and can sell it for what I paid even in todays market and for a quick sale take a little hit. With any double rifle ALWAYS ask to see the factory target or better still ask to shoot it.

Saying all that I have just seen that you are in AUS. TBH I dont know too much about the double rifle market there but I would say given how many doubles are there 4K might be an average price. Good to have woodleigh bullets on tap though

 

[mchughcb]

At 4K I will have it if you dont. Doubles are not going down in price they hold value like an old Aston Martin and go up the older they get. I have one in 416 Rigby and can sell it for what I paid even in todays market and for a quick sale take a little hit. With any double rifle ALWAYS ask to see the factory target or better still ask to shoot it.

Saying all that I have just seen that you are in AUS. TBH I dont know too much about the double rifle market there but I would say given how many doubles are there 4K might be an average price. Good to have woodleigh bullets on tap though

Yes had factory target in the factory case.
So all legitimate

 

[norfolk shooter]

Yes had factory target in the factory case.
So all legitimate

Is that i the UK?? If so where?? And if your not going to have it let me know I might just jump on it

 

[mchughcb]

Is that i the UK?? If so where?? And if your not going to have it let me know I might just jump on it

Sorry, its in Victoria. I wish i could do you a trade on some nice 2nd hand shotguns.

 

[norfolk shooter]

Seems like AUS is the place to go to buy doubles

 

[Pkiernan]

They don't seem to be dropping much in the US at least.

I'm moving out there for work, so now I don't have to deal with stupid UK gun laws I'm looking for a .470NE double to have a play with. Because why not?

The Chapuis or Merkel options aren't terrible value, but I wouldn't call them a bargain. Not significantly cheaper this year than last either, going by the sold ads. I'd probably go for a Kreighoff at £4000 equivalent if offered. @mchughcb, Got any pictures?

Butch Searcy has a good reputation for doubles in the US.

 

[8x57]

Butch Searcy has a good reputation for doubles in the US.

Possibly, but I'm not so sure as I've read reports on the Nitro Express forum that some of his earlier Ruger Red Label conversions had issues. So not having seen any of his rifles for myself I remain slightly sceptical.

 

[Alistair]

I'll be looking second hand market and probably person to person versus a dealer. A couple of forums for that kinda thing in the US that put up some good deals (plus exciting pictures of various Safaris).

 

[Kano383]

Find an old Rigby, Westley Richards, or any of the good British gunmakers' doubles. Handle it for a few minutes, swing it, point it, mount it slow or fast, feel the balance.

Then go back to that Krieghoff, try to do the same, and feel what a great tool that would be if you had to plant fence pickets with it...

 

[Heym SR20]

Find an old Rigby, Westley Richards, or any of the good British gunmakers' doubles. Handle it for a few minutes, swing it, point it, mount it slow or fast, feel the balance.

Then go back to that Krieghoff, try to do the same, and feel what a great tool that would be if you had to plant fence pickets with it...

Totally agree, and add Blasers as well. Merkels handle well though.

A good British styled double (as there are others now building similar) handle like a fast pointing shotgun even though they weigh 10 to 12 lbs.

The German guns tend to have their weight much further forwards. Germans shoot a lot of running game but tends to be a smooth crossing shot and they start with gun up.
Whereas the British Double is designed for a snap shot at a fast charging incoming target with gun carried butt down - line up the muzzles with target and fire as butt hits the shoulder.

It’s different rifles for different styles and different jobs.