Cautionary Tale - strange bullet impact and nearly lost a deer

muddy42

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This is possibly one of the strangest things that has happened to me in 20 years of stalking.

At the weekend I was stalking roe bucks in woodland at first light. I spotted a buck at 50 yards, sitting down in the grass looking at me side on. The deer was alert to my prescience, I sensed I had to be quick, raised the rifle to the sticks and fired. The point of aim was in the middle of the shoulder. In terms of shot reaction, the deer rolled, disappeared behind a tree and I could hear kicking. I repositioned myself, waited 30 seconds and could see the deer lying still on its side. That's one dead deer I thought, so I walked slowly towards it with the rifle reloaded, in my hands with safety on. However very quickly the deer jumped up and ran off unsteady on its feet with its head held low.

I wasn't worried at this stage, there was a fence downhill that should contain a short charge. I waited a full 20 mins before investigating. I followed a reasonable blood trail for 80 yards and over the fence (pools and spots of normal not frothy lung blood). Then under some mature conifers the trail stopped completely, I casted around on hands and knees - nothing. I went back to the car to get the dog. He made a promising start, sniffing and heading off in a straight line downhill. But then he lost interest - the hot weather didn't help. I went back uphill to where I started and we casted around for about 40 minutes. Nothing.

I was about to give up and call another dog, when I saw a buck walking slowly uphill, 100 metres to the left of where we were searching. The binos confirmed it was the same buck with identical antlers and it was walking very unsteadily on its feet in a jerking fashion. I raised the rifle and delivered a textbook H/L shot. On investigation, I noticed it had a broken front leg that was separate and some distance from the H/L entry and exit holes (and confirmed in the larder later). I feel terrible for causing an hour of pain and suffering.

I suspect that the deer's leg and was somehow in front of the shoulder when sitting. Its amazing that the 100gr 243 bullet fragmented on impact with leg bone and went no further, but that is what I think happened. Or my aim was lower than I recall, who knows? The second bizarre thing was I have known deer to lie up but never to walk back uphill (upwind) towards me and the shot site - arcing round for perhaps 400 meters in total.

Be careful with shooting sitting deer (or pass) the internals and limbs are arranged in a strange way. Study deer closely through the scope after the shot, they can lie still and stunned. Deer are incredibly tough survivors. Posting this as a caution to others. On reflection I am aware I made heaps of mistakes, consistent 'bang/flops" make you complacent.
 
Good write-up, @muddy42.

As you say, I always struggle to make anatomical sense of a deer that is lying/sitting. I either neck shoot them (if close), whistle them to their feet (if I'm impatient), or just wait (if it's a nice sunny day and I don't mind watching him for a bit until he decides to get up).
 
Good write-up, @muddy42.

As you say, I always struggle to make anatomical sense of a deer that is lying/sitting. I either neck shoot them (if close), whistle them to their feet (if I'm impatient), or just wait (if it's a nice sunny day and I don't mind watching him for a bit until he decides to get up).

Agreed, best not to shoot for the shoulder on a sitting deer. I should have gone for the head or neck.
I sensed this chap wasn't going to wait - he had seen movement and was in those two seconds or so before hoping up and bolting.
 
Great write up and a cautionary tale for the rest of us here.

As said further up - could happen to any one of us and you're never too experienced to make an error (which you put right as fast as possible and with the right result).

We all get a bit complacent in anything we do a lot of (hence why the raspberry bushes died this year) - sometimes a timely reminder that does not have disastrous consequences is a good thing.

Having had my own confessional moment on here a while back I must say what a non-judgmental and encouraging group we have here (on occassion ;))
 
Same thing happened to me on a stag, what I thought was a perfect H/L shot, deer crumbled, tumbled 20yds down hill, got up and slowly walked away. Could t get another shot at it. Despite search with dog, never found blood and never recovered it.
I’ve shot hundreds of deer and never had this happen, or anything like it! still can’t explain it.

was from 140g partition in 7mm from 175yds or so. God knows! Perhaps nicked the spine, perhaps blew up on shoulder, impossible to say. Only sign was it rolled, got up, and slowly walked away into the tall undergrowth never to be seen again, with zero blood trail.
 
Some strange things happen with bullets. Once shot a roe that was standing perfectly side on. Went to gralloch it and found the bullet must have fragmented/deflected off a rib and went back through the intestines. Couldn’t find a exit hole or the bullet.
 
Had one recently that was perfect broadside at 150m. Bullet somehow went in just behind the shoulder and came out through the neck - deflected right almost 90 degrees and up 20.
 
Some strange things happen with bullets. Once shot a roe that was standing perfectly side on. Went to gralloch it and found the bullet must have fragmented/deflected off a rib and went back through the intestines. Couldn’t find a exit hole or the bullet.
I think we can expect more of this kind of thing with the increasing use of "copper".

K
 
I had a .308 PPU 150 grain SP curve off a Muntjac’s shoulder blade at 90 degrees in the opposite direction and exit it’s backside. On opening it up-green mush everywhere!
 
I think we can expect more of this kind of thing with the increasing use of "copper".

K
So you hear this said a lot, but other than confirmation bias, it’s not clear that it’s actually true.

Why would solids be more likely to veer off in strange directions? My rudimentary understanding of the physics leads me to think that something harder is more rather than less likely to keep going in a straight line?
 
So you hear this said a lot, but other than confirmation bias, it’s not clear that it’s actually true.

Why would solids be more likely to veer off in strange directions? My rudimentary understanding of the physics leads me to think that something harder is more rather than less likely to keep going in a straight line?
In my experience it's bull****.
 
So you hear this said a lot, but other than confirmation bias, it’s not clear that it’s actually true.

Why would solids be more likely to veer off in strange directions? My rudimentary understanding of the physics leads me to think that something harder is more rather than less likely to keep going in a straight line?
Agreed. Only time and SD bias will tell.

K
 
I had a .308 PPU 150 grain SP curve off a Muntjac’s shoulder blade at 90 degrees in the opposite direction and exit it’s backside. On opening it up-green mush everywhere!
I had something similar happen with 150 grn .308 Speer years ago.
 
I think we can expect more of this kind of thing with the increasing use of "copper".

K
I had a .308 PPU 150 grain SP curve off a Muntjac’s shoulder blade at 90 degrees in the opposite direction and exit it’s backside. On opening it up-green mush everywhere!
The reason I started exploring the straight line penetration and exit of Barnes bullets was because a Sako soft point turned right angles when it hit the far side of a Muntjac chest cavity, took out a swathe of ribs and exited just in front of the haunch. I was unnerved as to safe backdrop alignment apart from anything else.

Alan
 
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