Time to fill with grease and wrap in denso tape if it gets to that stage.
Finally...the tide of opinion is turning
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waterford103
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They won't come for the guns , they'll come for the folks that know how to use them if things get that bad.Time to fill with grease and wrap in denso tape if it gets to that stage.
John Gryphon
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Has anyone on the SD actually read this book?
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Are we talking Olympic champions first or how will it work do you think?
Any clue as to who "they" are?
howa243
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I may have misunderstood.
I didn't realise that it was just the vaccination program that was under discussion. I assumed it was the fact that you have to stay in your house, not go for a walk in the country, that not submitting to a vaccinations will result in your freedoms limited to not being able to travel or enjoy large outside sporting events. These seem controlling to me, but may not have been under discussion in the OP.
teyhan1
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I find this argument very difficult to understand.
Your points are all about the ‘me’.
The word Pandemic really should give everybody a clue that it is all about ‘us’, everyone.
The virus by its very nature has mutated and continues to mutate. The longer it is out there the more it mutates, until maybe it becomes so deadly that it wipes out its host. So we need to kill it.
I do not believe for one second that any of the freedoms that we have put on the back burner will not come back. For one, I don’t believe the public would wear it.
You are not limited where you can travel in our country at the moment.
Why do you think that you should be able to travel in a little tube in the sky with 300 other people who have been vaccinated and potentially infect them so as they can go on and infect others. The same applies to mass gatherings. It’s all about MEEEEE.
Well it’s not about you. It’s about everybody. It’s short term. If things don’t go back to how they were (when the virus is dead) then you’ll have something to complain about.
howa243
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You maybe have someone else in mind. I voted brexit knowing I would lose money from single farm payment, I dont go on holiday because I am too busy working in some of the most beautiful countryside in Leicestershire. I voted for brexit because I believe it could be better for the country (at some point) and I am concerned about people like you, because freedoms are easily given away and much less easily obtained. I would have thought a casual glance at the history of firearms legislation in the UK, would help you understand that.
I would like to think that I am not the only one in finding the 'build back better' mantra slightly disturbing.
waterford103
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THEY are the megalomaniacs who imposed this regime upon us on the back of what is basically flu . If you are so brainwashed / blinkered or involved then you deserve all you get .
Rasputin
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Good god were all doomed. Talk about dramatic
mchughcb
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Today my home detention was extended for another 2 weeks and the 9pm curfew or in other words martial law has been re-implemented.
I'm so glad that approaching 175 days of 23 hour house confinement I've done the right thing to help eliminate the virus.
I would like to thank all the health professionals who have worked diligently with their authorized worker papers and helped spread the virus from nursing home to nursing home while everyone else is locked up.
If there ever was an example of moving the goalposts because your argument just got slaughtered, your response to Teyhans excellent post is it.
Who mentioned Brexit ?
Cheers
Bruce
howa243
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This is what he said, 'your points are all about the ‘me’.' The point about brexit was to show that I am very capable of making a decision, which is very much, not to my benefit. Sorry if this was a little too, subtle for you.
Freeforester
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”The virus by its very nature has mutated and continues to mutate. The longer it is out there the more it mutates, until maybe it becomes so deadly that it wipes out its host. So we need to kill it.”
I hate to state the obvious, but a leaky jab will not achieve this, nor any amount of leaky booster jabs. The data already shows how ‘well’ that strategy is going.
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I hate to state the obvious, but a leaky jab will not achieve this, nor any amount of leaky booster jabs. The data already shows how ‘well’ that strategy is going.
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Hell Toupee
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Not disputing that at all, just the way you showed the data.
Agreed, but its also not a useful way of showing the data.
You can't just cherry pick the worst years, that doesn't provide a true representation. Your argument that its wrong of me to use the last few years though is incorrect, as I shall illustrate below with a series of hand drawn artistic masterpieces...
Looking at all the years doesn't account for myriad of confounding factors, such as socioeconomic change, healthcare advancements etc etc, but looking at the more recent years removes long term trends. If you put your graph up with a scale that was appropriate, then it would be orders of magnitude more useful, looking at 1, 5 or 100 years.
Not at all, that's exactly my point, you can display data in different ways, without changing its raw values. My point is that the way you displayed it using a scale that flattened out the year on year changes, hides much of the true information, not in any way that you were altering it.
Now, regarding your suggestion of cherry picking the worst 5 years...
Imagine you (or I, nothing personal) went to the doctor - 'doc, I've started crapping myself most nights when I'm asleep'. If he then drew the number of times you'd crapped yourself per year on a graph, he could look at all years, the last 5 years, or the worst 5 years.
Graph 1 makes it look like there is no problem (because its no more than the worst 5 years, and less than some), but 2 & 3 show there is a problem... and I've view crapping myself, however infrequently, as an adult, as a problem
.Similarly, let look at the effect of scale. Graph 1 shows person 1 and person 2s gross salary, on a suitable scale. Graph 2 shows their salary using the UKs GDP for scale. Hard to see the difference isn't it...
Anyway, I've said my bit and respectfully will not be replying any further,
Best,
HT
Christ this is wierd.
In the beginning we knew nothing and locked down.
Then we knew more and had 2 jabs.
Then we relaxed lockdown (some had never locked down in the first place)
Then we decided wearing masks would be sensible and a follow-up jab.
Now we do everything including live ,as before, wear a mask in confined spaces and hope any new variants are less damaging and transmissible.
This is a personal response to an obviously fatal disease which does not affect everyone equally.
What do you do ? Because I have not been told to do any of this - I have listened and made my own mind up with a considerable conscience about those who might be affected by my actions.
Some of you lot are the ones trying to tell people what to do. Or rather one in particular.
In the beginning we knew nothing and locked down.
Then we knew more and had 2 jabs.
Then we relaxed lockdown (some had never locked down in the first place)
Then we decided wearing masks would be sensible and a follow-up jab.
Now we do everything including live ,as before, wear a mask in confined spaces and hope any new variants are less damaging and transmissible.
This is a personal response to an obviously fatal disease which does not affect everyone equally.
What do you do ? Because I have not been told to do any of this - I have listened and made my own mind up with a considerable conscience about those who might be affected by my actions.
Some of you lot are the ones trying to tell people what to do. Or rather one in particular.
mchughcb
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Wish I had that choice
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You could give Anne Frank a run for her money at this stage.
Keep it quiet in the cheap seats please.
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