First gun advice, best quality feel synthetic rifles?

[25 Sharps]

It'll be for deer and AOLQ

Then there is no need for variable and FFP, unless you’re going to be shooting further than 250 yards then an 8x56 will work very well. Fannying around with magnification and parallax will 100% cost you deer opportunities to start off with.

Using fixed mag also means you get used to the size of the deer in the sight picture at various ranges, meaning you have a clue when you have a quick shot to make with no time to range.

Don’t get me wrong I am not against variables, my creedmoor has an 3.5-21. FFP scope on it and if deer are likely to be further out (250+) I will take it. But my out and out stalking rifles have a 7x50 and 8x56 on, the .280 is a half way house with a ffp 8-12 x 56 fixed parallax.

 

[25 Sharps]

It'll be for deer and AOLQ, probably some longer range fox work.

Not really interested in fixed power scopes.

Why?

they 100% have the best light gathering so will let your shoot earlier in the morning and later in the evening, this is the time most deer move and you are likely to shoot more deer.

 

[Morkai]

Then there is no need for variable and FFP, unless you’re going to be shooting further than 250 yards then an 8x56 will work very well. Fannying around with magnification and parallax will 100% cost you deer opportunities to start off with.

Using fixed mag also means you get used to the size of the deer in the sight picture at various ranges, meaning you have a clue when you have a quick shot to make with no time to range.

Don’t get me wrong I am not against variables, my creedmoor has an 3.5-21. FFP scope on it and if deer are likely to be further out (250+) I will take it. But my out and out stalking rifles have a 7x50 and 8x56 on, the .280 is a half way house with a ffp 8-12 x 56 fixed parallax.

Id rather have the variable option and keep it on the lower end when stalking.

 

[Morkai]

Why?

they 100% have the best light gathering so will let your shoot earlier in the morning and later in the evening, this is the time most deer move and you are likely to shoot more deer.

I can get a variable with ample light gathering.

 

[25 Sharps]

Id rather have the variable option and keep it on the lower end when stalking.

Fair enough and entirely your choice but I came up the air rifle and rimfire route, used a variable for ages on my deer rifle, switching to a zeiss 8x56 was the best thing I did!

But entirely your choice and if you’re sticking to the one rifle it will keep things flexible for you

 

[25 Sharps]

I can get a variable with ample light gathering.

Only if you spend a lot of money

 

[Morkai]

Only if you spend a lot of money

I disagree with this, it may not be exactly the same as a fixed for the money but thats why I said ample.
You can still get good performance without buying top end all the time.

 

[25 Sharps]

I disagree with this, it may not be exactly the same as a fixed for the money but thats why I said ample.
You can still get good performance without buying top end all the time.

Yes it does depend on your definition of ample.

My £950 Bushnell DMR on my creedmoor (primarily a target rifle) loses about 15 minutes to my SH zeiss 8x56 (£250).

Thats the difference between being able to see a deer or be able to see it well enough to sex it and know that is in season. Nothing worse than being able to see an animal and not having the right scope to let you shoot it. To get a variable to give equal light gathering to that zeiss you are in the realms of £2k plus.

But it’s your journey and your call, I changed after a trip to Devon and missing out on a hind because I could not see it properly with my 4-16 variable.

 

[Morkai]

Yes it does depend on your definition of ample.

My £950 Bushnell DMR on my creedmoor (primarily a target rifle) loses about 15 minutes to my SH zeiss 8x56 (£250).

Thats the difference between being able to see a deer or be able to see it well enough to sex it and know that is in season. Nothing worse than being able to see an animal and not having the right scope to let you shoot it. To get a variable to give equal light gathering to that zeiss you are in the realms of £2k plus.

But it’s your journey and your call, I changed after a trip to Devon and missing out on a hind because I could not see it properly with my 4-16 variable.

I wont rule out a fixed and will look more into them before a purchase, I'll have to find one with a reticle I can work with.

Thanks.

 

[25 Sharps]

I wont rule out a fixed and will look more into them before a purchase, I'll have to find one with a reticle I can work with.

Thanks.

The other option of course is to fit a rail and use 2 different scopes on reliable quick release mounts, then you get the best of both worlds.

Might not work for truly long range though, unless the mounts return to perfect zero.

 

[JTO]

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tikka t3

i have this in 6.5 and love it. had the trigger done on it. when i bought it, if i could all my rifles would be tikka.

Estimated delivery 'undefined' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[murph3010]

Estimated delivery 'undefined' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To be fair I only sent the link because of the rifle. Not to buy from them . Should have made that clear. But I love mine I bought mine from Scotland and had it delivered to my local shop as they didn't stock them with laminated stock. Great rifles t3s.

 

[308tikka]

You should go into a gunshop and feel the ergonomics of the stock. Most rifles will shoot well out of the box. Have a feel for trigger.

the stock can be replaced, as can the barrel. Look at second hand options for this reason.

I shoot Tikkas and think theyre brilliant. Sakos look lovely too, but some dont. If you dont like the feel dont buy it-it will be with you for a while and theres no point being less than 100% confident and happy using whatever you buy. Stick some decent glass on top however-its more important than the rifle.

 

[Morkai]

You should go into a gunshop and feel the ergonomics of the stock. Most rifles will shoot well out of the box. Have a feel for trigger.

the stock can be replaced, as can the barrel. Look at second hand options for this reason.

I shoot Tikkas and think theyre brilliant. Sakos look lovely too, but some dont. If you dont like the feel dont buy it-it will be with you for a while and theres no point being less than 100% confident and happy using whatever you buy. Stick some decent glass on top however-its more important than the rifle.

Yeah, I went to two RFDs to see a T3X, Begara and a the HS Howa.
HS was the better quality feeling and fitting of the three.

 

[Dhindes]

I would strongly consider second hand.
I have 2 Krico's - both came with Zeiss or Swarowski scope - both shoot like a dream and both cost less than 500.
I just bought a lovely mauser 2000 - absolutely solid action and smooth as anything - 100 pounds !

Maybe a bit of risk but not much if the bore is good and you go for quality manufature

 

[Morkai]

Already purchased my rifle now, thanks for the replies.

 

[JTO]

Great rifles t3s.

I've got three, with two more on order, but not from SGC.

 

[Morkai]

I wont be buying a scope until next month but I had this Hawke red dot sitting in the cupboard that came 2nd hand with another rifle and wanted to see what the new rifle was like.

Be kind, ha.

These are my first two shots from 100yds with just a bore eye sighting and a few clicks on the scope (not properly zeroed), its low and to the left but it looks promising for when I get something with a bit of magnification. At 100yds the dot covers about 2/3 of the target.

Pleased with my first centrefire rifle.

 

[Morkai]

This was with S&B SP 140gr

 

[BEAR1]

You cannot go too far wrong with the Tikka T3/T3X , a good solid practical rifle that does the job.