Thanks for the replies guys.....
Seams one hell of a pilaver, especially as modern BMWs generally have blacked out windows, luggage covers and decent security.
Can you not find somewhere on the chasis to anchor a cable and trigger lock?
After more thought and reading some responses- I think you're right. A safe will attract attention and be a real faff.
Don't go messing around with the rear seat bases (which you'd have to do to get the seat backs out of the way fully to get a safe flat in the boot stretching through to the passenger compartment - the seat bases have occupancy sensors for the seatbelt warning system - if one of those connectors isn't right then it's an MOT failure. In addition, if a safe is easily removable then it's easily removable by others too.
Far better with a safe either widthwise, or the gun secured by steel cable to a point.
I envisaged attaching the the boot somehow- but potentially the safe resting over the folding seats. Safe woukd be bolted to car base from the inside- same as your safe at home. So not easy to remove.
But I agree- cable through the trigger guard- or better still- through the bolt hole coming out where the magazine- should be pretty secure.
The safest gun is the one which others don't know of. A dark coloured gun slip tucked in the footwell behind the front seats combined with tinted glass usuallly does a pretty good job at that.
Or simply in the boot with the cover drawn.
Of course don't leave your mobile, a camara or a fancy looking brief case visibly in the car. This increases the chance for a break-in by a multiple - with or without a gun safe in the car.
Good point. I think with the parcel shelf it won't be visible. Nor will any other shooting kit to attract attention. Will keep the back seats messy too!
Don't leave the gun in the car unattended and if you have to keep it out of sight and take the bolt and ammo with you.
Which is it ? Don't do it? Or do it but remove bolt and ammo ? 98% of the time- I do the former. 2% of the time- I do the latter. But that 2% still makes me uncomfortable.
I Do not feel comfortable having a gun that can be taken just by breaking a window. The curse of an estate car i suppose. Even if it's not visible.
So-
Parcel shelf so gun case is out of sight
Generic square plastic gun case- i may even put a few stickers on it so it looks like a violin or a pair of pool cues maybe?! Not that it will ever be visible....
Car is alarmed and will only be left during the day. One hour max.
I found an area in the boot I can weld an attachment point to
Gun will be attached to this fixed point.......
The only other problem is how do I attach the gun to the fixed point?
Lots of videos on YouTube on padlocks being picked in seconds.
Flexible plastic coated cable will be easiest to feed through breach etc. But easily cut with even cheap wire cutters.
chain harder to cut but may be too thick to fit through breach and may damage gun
Chain or even a D bike lock may fit through a large calibre CF- but a little rimfire will only have the space for a thin bit of cable
Needs more thought but further suggestions v welcome thanks
