The ink is still wet and so is the whitewash
Just had an unexpected home visit from 3 officers.
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sako751sg
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Did it cross your mind that this may have been linked to this subject?
Issue with nearby Landowner
I shoot over about 300 acres, I have an open ticket. Three landowners have the land between them, none of them mind me shooting. They're all top blokes and I get on with them and their families. A fourth landowner is a very difficult man and is just a pain. He's a townie that's moved to the...www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk
Would have been the very first thing that would have entered my mind.
Oracle
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Mainly as a result of HMIC undertaking a review of Firearms Licensing practices nationwide during 2014-2015.....just takes a long time for politicians and civil servants to make final decisions and roll it out
What was their approach to social distancing and did they don face coverings after providing ID and entering your property?
It’s not compulsory but it demonstrates respect for those one comes into contact with.
K
It’s not compulsory but it demonstrates respect for those one comes into contact with.
K
Sinistral
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I can think of two positive developments which might come from this new statutory guidance.
To quote from Wednesday's announcement by the Home Office, and the statement included from the British Medical Association:-
Comprehensive statutory guidance has been published by the Home Office which sets a clear framework for police to follow when considering applications.
For the first time, police will be legally required to have regard to the guidance, to help improve standards and consistency across forces in the UK.
Dr Mark Sanford-Wood, deputy chair of BMA GP committee England said:
"We are very pleased that this new guidance reflects the BMA’s significant contribution to its lengthy and complicated development. Public safety is paramount and we are delighted that this finally sets the standards, clarifies the national process and provides a clear approach for doctors and police forces to follow.
As doctors we support the government’s overall message – that gun ownership is a privilege and not a right - and that firearms must be in the hands of only those who are deemed safe and responsible.We have been emphatic throughout the consultation period that clarity was needed over where responsibility for licensing and safety lay and this has now been settled, with the BMA’s points taken fully into consideration.
As we requested, this guidance states that doctors are responsible for providing medical evidence with the police force making the final judgement on the issuing of the firearms licence. Our close collaborative working with the National Police Chiefs’ Council has resulted in unilateral agreement on this point."
UK’s strict gun laws strengthened with new medical arrangements
New statutory guidance will tighten up existing laws on gun ownership and mean that medical information must be provided in order to obtain a licence.
All police forces will now have to introduce the GP medical clearance form by November 1st, and follow the same licensing procedure by law.
All applicants will then be treated the same, which is a step long overdue.
The 1st paragraph of the BMA statement stresses that there is now a standardized form, and a system agreed with the Home Office and NPCC which all parties will follow.
As that's the case, surely we're now very close to the point where the BMA GP Committee can agree a fixed fee with their members for completing this form, so all of us pay the same?
kenbro
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I once allowed a uniformed police officer into our home at around midnight, he said he was making enquiries about a colleague who’d been shot.
He turned out to be a murderer.
Ken.
Stalker62
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Well that story needs padding out...
kenbro
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I would be reiterating if I told it again.
Ken.
PS. Would have sent you a pm if you weren’t ignoring me.
Stalker62
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kenbro old son,
Not ignoring you at all. Why would I?
However, I do have my profile locked down, which may have given you that impression.
I am mainly ignoring two members (and they are the same person) - you know who you are don't you?
Both of you...
Tf223
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With ID and satisfaction I would have let them in, but I wouldn’t have started talking or showing anything until the purpose of the visit was clear and understood. If they weren’t willing to disclose that then they’d be politely asked to leave and come back when they could explain their presence.
Stalker62
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paul o'
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I'd have said i'am going out please make a date and time convenient to all and closed the door then called the Flo office to make said appointment that would go along the lines your offices have been turned away as I don't know them and I don't wish to offend anyone .Most are not police officers but Civy or ex plod with ID cards and even if they are dressed in blue still have no rights to enter the home . see ( Pace S.17) .
Jimbob39
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I suspect this is the exact reason for an unannounced visit. The police need to act in a more visible manner when firearms are involved.Did it cross your mind that this may have been linked to this subject?
Issue with nearby Landowner
I shoot over about 300 acres, I have an open ticket. Three landowners have the land between them, none of them mind me shooting. They're all top blokes and I get on with them and their families. A fourth landowner is a very difficult man and is just a pain. He's a townie that's moved to the...
12gsnapcaps
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That issue - that people keep linking - was a while ago and was all sorted after BASC spoke to my forces FLM. It was not mentioned at all during the visit, nor should it have been, as i was the victim in the scenario and I did nothing wrong.
I have written a letter of complaint sent via email to my FLU, also demanding to know why I had an unannounced visit and what the purpose of it was for. cc'd in my BASC rep for what it's worth. The whole experience was utterly bizziare. I'll let you know what feedback I get.
I have written a letter of complaint sent via email to my FLU, also demanding to know why I had an unannounced visit and what the purpose of it was for. cc'd in my BASC rep for what it's worth. The whole experience was utterly bizziare. I'll let you know what feedback I get.
Glad you brought that up...What would they had done if you were coughing also saying you felt very unwell
Took steps...big ones back to the
12gsnapcaps
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None of them wore masks or offered to wear masks.Glad you brought that up...What would they had done if you were coughing also saying you felt very unwell
Took steps...big ones back to thecoffee shopstation....
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