The GMX and Federal copper were all mates I was shooting with. Wouldn't touch them personally. I was using the Yew Tree bullets. I've used TTSX and LRX for several years with success inside 250m, all driven between 3400 and 3150 fps. Spectacular as long as terminal velocity is kept over 2800 fps, do their job below that to about 2400 fps, pretty crap thereafter, but that's over 250m away if you can launch them fast enough. I was looking for a bullet that didn't need the very high velocity and reliably expanded/fragmented at slower speeds. The Yew Tree seems pretty good so far but more deer to shoot before I reach any sort of conclusion.Interesting.
This is an identical account to factory GMX I used in 25-06 a few seasons ago. Just awful. Large stags stood frozen to the spot, neck shots jumping back up for a second shot etc etc.
But…..
I’m now on hand loaded 6.5/308 TTSX-100g and 130g and these seem better, largely owing to the much higher MV which we set out to get (3350 in 6.5, 3000 in 308). So far much happier-I’m a hundred or so beasts into the experiment, shot some very large reds, sika and nothing seems to go far. The 6.5 is a bugger for tiny exits and nae blood trail, but things seem to DRT anyway
Longest deer with copper ammo??
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Utectok
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Calibre MV bullet weight ?
Utectok
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Also well done
6mm wild cat cartridge to my own design, my own 80.5 grain bullet MV 3180 fps. Estimated impact velocity 1,800fps. Bullet functioned well and fragmented as designed.
It was not a shot I would ordinarily take as was well outside what I consider a sensible range. In this case I had taken a mate out who had wounded this buck (brisket/leg) it was pretty mobile (not my bullets!). I had a shot across the corner of a big field and felt that I would be unable to close the gap to a more mundane distance, the likelihood of the buck remaining where he was and me still having decent light was pretty slim. I ‘pin’ shot it through both shoulders as hadn’t tested my bullets on deer to that range. Thankfully he went straight down.
Not a shot I would want to repeat and it was lucky there wasn’t much in the way of breeze, still had 1.5 MOA left on to account for that and a tad of spin drift.
It was not a shot I would ordinarily take as was well outside what I consider a sensible range. In this case I had taken a mate out who had wounded this buck (brisket/leg) it was pretty mobile (not my bullets!). I had a shot across the corner of a big field and felt that I would be unable to close the gap to a more mundane distance, the likelihood of the buck remaining where he was and me still having decent light was pretty slim. I ‘pin’ shot it through both shoulders as hadn’t tested my bullets on deer to that range. Thankfully he went straight down.
Not a shot I would want to repeat and it was lucky there wasn’t much in the way of breeze, still had 1.5 MOA left on to account for that and a tad of spin drift.
Utectok
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Perfect well done mate congratuwelldone on the good expansion
I suppose all’s well that ends well but I wouldn’t want to have to do it again. That really is pushing the boundaries with any of my hunting bullets.
That's good to hear. I've just started loading 175gr LRX in my 300WSM - I was worried they'd be a bit heavy so the fact that they're a bit softer will be helpful. I'll be shooting reds with it so there's a bit of meat there to get them started at least.
Heym SR20
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So my take on this discussion
1) not all copper is created equal
2) Hornady GMX are hard and tough bullets that don’t expand well unless you put them through shoulders / tough animals. They are no longer featured on Hornady’s website so can only assume they have been dropped
3) most non toxic bullets if put in the correct place kill well out to well over 300m if launched at appropriate velocities. Indeed will work at 400m. But it, as always, comes down to shot placement.
4) most deer when hit by a bullet do not drop dead as if polaxed. Most stagger, run a short way and then fall over. And the same is true whatever the bullet is made of or it’s construction
And deer if hit in the wrong place can go a very long way.
1) not all copper is created equal
2) Hornady GMX are hard and tough bullets that don’t expand well unless you put them through shoulders / tough animals. They are no longer featured on Hornady’s website so can only assume they have been dropped
3) most non toxic bullets if put in the correct place kill well out to well over 300m if launched at appropriate velocities. Indeed will work at 400m. But it, as always, comes down to shot placement.
4) most deer when hit by a bullet do not drop dead as if polaxed. Most stagger, run a short way and then fall over. And the same is true whatever the bullet is made of or it’s construction
And deer if hit in the wrong place can go a very long way.
A red calf today at 330m under a bit of pressure having shot the hind much closer - 130gn 308 Fox factory worked perfectly thankfully
yep just about sums it up..
They seem to have renamed them CX.
Or at least replaced them with CX. They only do 110gr, 165gr, 180gr and 190gr in 308. No 125gr or 150gr listed
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