Flight Pond - Tree Felling. What could possibly...

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As I tramped around our little shoot on the last day of the season, it was only me and the Farmer.

Just a couple of hours wandering with a shotgun, and we got more 'business' done, with regard to the shoot that the rest of the year. He is a busy man.

Long short.

I need to fell a couple of ash trees and a couple of thorny bastard things, to try and make a 'flight pond' out of the Middle Pond on the shoot.

So I emptied the truck of everything else, and filled it will all the chainsaw paraphernalia that goes with the simple task of felling a tree.

The drama with this little job was that both trees were 'leaners' and they both leant back over the water.

The other little drama was that in order to get into a felling position, I had to be stood on a slope, which leads down to the water.

Not ideal.

The thorny bastards things, on the opposite side of the pond are a breeze and they are soon history.

The ash trees less so.

The first one comes off its stump, start to fall, gets hung up in the second ash and 'plants' itself upright into the earth. FFS!

A bit of judicious bore cutting and I mange to bring it safely to the ground.

I drag all the branches out of the way and go back for number two.

I try my very best to fell this onto dry earth, but it is nigh on impossible. She crashes to the waters edge and I am fcuked.

I soon make small work of the first tree, and then consider trying to winch the second tree out of the pond and up onto terra firma.

It turns out that when I emptied the truck to fill it with chainsaw stuff, I also emptied it of the winch controls. Looking at the size of this ash tree I think this is a blessing.

I give the Farmer, the good news. He will be busy for the next week or so, but he will get the tractor across at some stage and drag the offending tree out.

I am exhausted. I tell him there is no rush. There really is no rush...

I fill the truck to the gunnels with all the wood I have processed; and fully expect to get 'tugged' by the Old Bill on the way home for 'insecure load' or some such offence.

Somehow, I make it to my daughter's, and fill her log store with today's bounty. I would do anything for the family. They will inherit all of my debts estate, when the time comes.
They can have anything I have. However, that said. Giving wood away causes me a physical pain.

They were having some work done on their house and somehow I am given two long lengths of oak that are going into their skip. I will slice them up back at home.

Can it be that I am the only one who suffers from such a meanness of heart when it comes to sharing wood?

Safely back at home, after successfully dodging the local Sheriff, I empty out the truck with my share of the loot, with the gleeful satisfaction that only a real miser understands.

Now it is time for a cold beer and a warm bath...


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I am minded to go back to the pond next week, and have a go at winching it out.

Landrover 110 - Bearmach winch.

What are my chances?:-|
 
I am minded to go back to the pond next week, and have a go at winching it out.

Landrover 110 - Bearmach winch.

What are my chances?:-|
If you are asking the question you already know the answer, let the farmer drag it out by tractor and then you can log it on dry land.
 
If you are asking the question you already know the answer, let the farmer drag it out by tractor and then you can log it on dry land.
You are of course absolutely right.

My 'plan' was never going to end well...🤪
 
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I am minded to go back to the pond next week, and have a go at winching it out.

Landrover 110 - Bearmach winch.

What are my chances?:-|

i take it it is an electric winch and not an ex power job landy with either hydraulic or pto driven?
Probably either burn out ur battery or ur winch.
They don't really like pulling for long periods of time.

i know lads that knackered the winch on the mwep landy trying too drag trees out with it

A tele handler or loader tractor might be handier incase butt digs into the banking when u start pulling with a normal tractor, be a few T in it i would say


Did the ash tree break of the hinge and go with the weight?

Bad to see from the photos, it actually looks a good tidy text book hinge, a nice tidy job :thumb::tiphat:
Which is often the problem with weighted or leaning trees.
To be fair with ash it probably wouldn't off mattered how u done it apart from putting a rope on the tree when standing as looks a fair bit of weight and lean.

I tend to rarely/never cut a parrellel hinge on a leaning tree if trying to pull it round, althou hardwoods are very hit and miss if hinge will hold, if i think it will i leave almost nothing on the leaning/compression side ( sometimes even cutting throu it if trying to dutchman it, which doesn't always work) but leave it wide on the tension/inside to give it more strength and keep the back cut very low also
If u google dutchman or swizel cuts or combining the 2, but to be honest i doubt any would of helped that ash either a rope or a big bottle jack might have done it ( i have a 20 and 30T ones, but know boys work with as little as 5T but smaller 1's blow more seals)
Far easier to do these cuts on softwoods esp sitka where u know hinge will hold
 
I hope you didn’t do this on your Jack Jones?
It was the first time (no excuse) I have been on the chain saw alone.

I normally have a mate or at least MrsS62 as a 'safety officer' - but MrsS62 is unable to leave the house at the moment.

I did have other (insufficient) safety measures in place, trauma kit, time in/out and grid locations but none of which excuse not having a second person on site.

I will not do so again.
 
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i know lads that knackered the winch on the mwep landy trying too drag trees out with it

A tele handler or loader tractor might be handier incase butt digs into the banking when u start pulling with a normal tractor, be a few T in it i would say

Did the ash tree break of the hinge and go with the weight?
Yes, I am resolved to wait for the Farmer to hoik it out with a tractor.

The winch is electric and fairly new, and it would be shame to bugger it up on a 'fools errand'.

The offending tree came off its hinge quite nicely, I was trying to 'wedge it over' onto dry land but the backwards lean was just too much and she just fell at the water's edge.
 
To be fair wots a 2nd person really going to do anyway??

Esp if u have a phone signal.

Ur far better really thinking about how ur going to do the job 1st, finding the safest way and just being really careful.

I'm always far more worried about the tree/branches landing on my than the saw cutting me.
ven cross cutting big logs on side slopes still terrifies me if a log rolls unexpectedly, or breaking down big hardwood crowns can be a dodgy experience too for being crushed

The dodgiest thing u done was sausage cut that hung up tree down, that a big tree for doing that with, i don't think i would of had the balls to do it.
Those cuts can go wrong very quickly and quite severly
 
I am minded to go back to the pond next week, and have a go at winching it out.

Landrover 110 - Bearmach winch.

What are my chances?:-|
I used to do a bit of winch work on the slipways in Chester, fallen timber hazards to navigation, with this ...
 

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I used to do a bit of winch work on the slipways in Chester, fallen timber hazards to navigation, with this ...
Diving down in Cornwall (in the last century) and saw a Suzuki Jeep reversing a boat and trailer down the slipway.

Did not end well...
 
Wood is like permissions. You can xxxx right off if you think I am going to give it away. :lol:.
I have 2 farms that now allow me to take their wood away. They cut and chop it and as long as it fits in my trailer it’s coming home. I have an electric chainsaw just in case it is too long to fit. But so far so good. Worked out I have about 2 years of wood at the farms. Of joy. Shame they are a 100 mile round trip but, hey trailer on the back probably costs me an extra fiver in fuel.
 
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Diving down in Cornwall (in the last century) and saw a Suzuki Jeep reversing a boat and trailer down the slipway.

Did not end well...
Dived a 55m deep wreck a long way out from Nth Cornwall. twin 12's twin 7's from Mark Ellyatt rib,

I covered the fuel cost and he spent a day in the workshop learning the basics of welding when he came past mine.

I learnt more about the art of helium from than he did running weld beads but a fair swap he said lol

 
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Makes my toes itch.



Felling trees also reminds me of the beauty of the English language.

First you chop it down.
Then you chop it up.

Just love that.

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my builders site stuff ain't as good as some quality air dried ash ,,,

But I must admit , I do find myself knocking on properties if I see a load of wind fell/ or dead wood knocking about ,

Natures gold , ands it mad as said in a couple of posts above ......." And the replies I've had off knocking on the doors "

"Take it please " or " sod off, it's mine " lol

I think it's a ritual or the caveman in us , never ever , see timber go to waste , especially when it can keep us warm, and cook some damn fine tucker on it ,UGG UGG LOL

Kjf
 
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