kenbro
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Does it really matter how many ft lbs you need to kill a paper deer?
Ken.
How much ammo do I need for DSC1?
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Ken.
One tip, if you are an experienced target shooter, don't tell anyone before hand. I did and it added extra pressure (in my mind anyway). I was very disappointed with my shooting, but still got through first try.
One thing I am still annoyed with was loosing a Lapua case in the field.
One thing I am still annoyed with was loosing a Lapua case in the field.
I think it does.
If the round you are using is less than deer-legal, there will probably be less recoil and therefore the rifle will be easier to shoot and the test will be easier to pass.
So theoretically you could pass DSC1 with soft cartridges and then be granted a .308 for use on deer.
kenbro
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Like the man that used his .223 do you mean.
That same man could also go stalking with (Assuming he has one) his .308 after using a “Soft” cartridge to gain his DSC1.
Ken.
no you cant cos that is one of the real rules from dqm they have to be legal for deer. honestly mate you are just confusing yourself and others with this. people should just look on the dqm website and get the imformation right from the start
It’s why the BSRC has class “A” and “B” defined competitions. The point being if you gave competitors the choice of using a deer-legal calibre to shoot the so-called “Stalkers Test” or a 22 Hornet, guess which one would be most popular? At least when the wind is not gusting.
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kenbro
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Is that somehow pertinent to DSC1?
K
No, Ken.
If you handload any cartridge to less than deer legal, it will have less pressure, less velocity and less recoil, making it easier to pass any shooting test. If you were to do the DSC1 via a provider that allows handloads which should be deer legal, I would be very surprised if the assessors would chronograph the candidate's cartridges to check the ME/MV.
Factory .223 is fine for small deer, clearly, and all power to @Tae for passing (using factory ammo, I note
). If he than wants to take a red stag, he would have to move up to a larger calibre and I am sure he, as a responsible stalker, would practice with that heavier calibre before going stalking.Preferably, they will get the joining instructions from the training provider, whoever that may be, and they will specify the kit to bring.
I think we agree rounds for DSC1 shooting assessment should be deer-legal. For me, factory loads are the easiest way to assure this.
And if you want to handload, don't apply for the BASC DSC1.
kenbro
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Don’t apply for anything that puts ££££ into B.A.S.C.’s coffers period.
K.
How are factory rounds the easiest way to assure this? I bet there are plenty out there that don't make all deer legal in some people's rifles, 20" .243 in particular.
I chrono'ed some S&B 110g XRG lead free the a while back, didn't even make 1600 ft-lb!
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Anybody with access to a chronograph........
7 mm rem mag is deer legal, so it 0.222, recoil is very different from the 2, negligible with the latter - should they introduce minimum recoil to level the playing field?
(did we make 7 pages yet
)I passed with a 0.223 (potentially home loaded), I now stalk with various calibres including .308 and .280, it really didn't put me at a disadvantage . . .
Let’s see if we can push it to 8 pages:
While I don't believe that using a non deer-legal chambering gives the shooter a massive advantage, I do wonder if the provider of these courses were to make all candidates use the same rifle it would make things in general less stressful for the guys on the firing point who must deal with the many challenges.
Of course this would no doubt lead to a new set of excuses!
K
While I don't believe that using a non deer-legal chambering gives the shooter a massive advantage, I do wonder if the provider of these courses were to make all candidates use the same rifle it would make things in general less stressful for the guys on the firing point who must deal with the many challenges.
Of course this would no doubt lead to a new set of excuses!
K
roaring_stag
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I did my DSC 1 a number of years ago, before I had my FAC. As such, I requested the use of the assessors rifle - fortunately they were happy to oblige. It was an ancient Parker Hale in .30-06, with a cheap and cheerful scope on the top. I picked up the rifle, shot the required groups, at the correct distances and that was that! It was a slightly nervewracking experience with a rifle I had never handled, and a calibre I hadn't shot before.
8x57
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I will disagree with you ever so slightly there Sir.
Not Should, but MUST be deer legal. Even if that is only deer legal for the smaller deer species.
P.S. Blast, still haven't extended this thread on such a simple subject to seven pages.
I agree and I even used the word "must" all the way back in post 93!
Apologies for even introducing the possibility of a shred of doubt that anyone should be able to use non-deer legal ammunition!
Now have we got to seven pages yet?
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