Storage of Moderator. Is it a "relevant component part" According to Firearms Act 1968 (as amended)?

[Outstanding in my field]

Have put some camo tape around my moderator to reduce noise from branch pings. The camo tape holds moisture. I never put a gun away wet.

Can I leave my moderator out to dry while I go out, or does it qualify as a component part of a firearm?

My reading of section 57 is that it isn't a component part?

Each of the following items is a relevant component part in relation to a lethal barrelled weapon or a prohibited weapon—

(a)a barrel, chamber or cylinder,​

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(b)a frame, body or receiver,​

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(c)a breech block, bolt or other mechanism for containing the pressure of discharge at the rear of a chamber,​

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but only where the item is capable of being used as a part of a lethal barrelled weapon or a prohibited weapon.]

Firearms Act 1968

An Act to consolidate the Firearms Acts 1937 and 1965, the Air Guns and Shot Guns, etc. , Act 1962, Part V of the Criminal Justice Act 1967 and certain enactments amending the Firearms Act 1937.

www.legislation.gov.uk

Thanks

 

[ColinJ]

Unless it’s on an air gun your moderator is listed on your FAC, so technically has the same legal status as your rifle, and the ‘secure storage’ condition on your FAC applies. So no, you can’t leave out to dry while you go shopping!

Shotgun moderator is different, but I don’t know what the rules are.

 

[Outstanding in my field]

Unless it’s on an air gun your moderator is listed on your FAC, so technically has the same legal status as your rifle, and the ‘secure storage’ condition on your FAC applies. So no, you can’t leave out to dry while you go shopping!

Shotgun moderator is different, but I don’t know what the rules are.

Thanks. I used as an excuse not to go shopping! I've found the relevant section in legislation now - right there on the link I shared.

 

[gixer1]

It’s about as dangerous as a baked beans tin but alas the rules are the rules! The sooner they take them off the FAC the better as it’s a load of nonsense.

 

[paul o']

laws an ass it still is a mess around mods ,when you can buy online parts to build one ?????

 

[bfltd0]

Indeed, you could lose your FAC for not locking up what is effectively a glorified baked bean tin.

Not totally logical but them's the rules!

 

[long_range_rob]

I’ve used large heat shrink over sticky tape. Does the same job and doesn’t hold water plus I leave the mod on a radiator till it’s bone dry as until I’ve finished cleaning the firearm or component part it’s still in use.

 

[Foxyboy43]

Now on FAC over here in NI and apparently magazines are going the same way!

 

[Sonicdmb73]

Now on FAC over here in NI and apparently magazines are going the same way!

Chocolate and fire guard spring to mind.
If you thought the Scottish airgun licence debacle (there's probably thousands still not on ticket). Somebody must really like wasting FLD's time

 

[Jamouk]

So shotgun mods dont have to be locked up ? ...

 

[Dalua]

Indeed, you could lose your FAC for not locking up what is effectively a glorified baked bean tin.

That is how I'd be inclined to behave with them, just in case.

However, I still think there's every reason to believe that when they're not actually 'an accessory to' a S1 firearm they are actually not a restricted item at all.

So shotgun mods dont have to be locked up ? ...

Under the Firearms Act, I think the only mods subject to S1 of control are those that are actually 'an accessory to' a S1 firearm.

 

[riflerob]

So shotgun mods dont have to be locked up ? ...

Correct. They are not on ticket, they can be bought online and sent through the post.

 

[glasshalffull]

No serial numbers on ticket not traceable don't worry

 

[Sandyb]

No serial numbers on ticket not traceable don't worry

But you'd still need to buy one to replace it... How can you do that without a free slot on your FAC?

 

[glasshalffull]

But you'd still need to buy one to replace it... How can you do that without a free slot on your FAC?

The subject matter is storage of a moderator not purchase

 

[Sandyb]

The subject matter is storage of a moderator not purchase

The condition wording on my FAC reads as attached. The conditions 4a & 4b apply, in that if theft ever occurred whilst not secured, you'd have a heck of a job to explain why it unsecured and taken whilst in your possession...

You also have 7 days in which to notify the Chief Constable of said loss or theft..

 

[paul o']

The condition wording on my FAC reads as attached. The conditions 4a & 4b apply, in that if theft ever occurred whilst not secured, you'd have a heck of a job to explain why it unsecured and taken whilst in your possession...

You also have 7 days in which to notify the Chief Constable of said loss or theft..

If a tube of what ever gets lost or damaged Just buy another in parts build it sorted ! Still only got one ? NVM no numbers no proof marks just a threaded tube much like a oil filter / other . I know it sounds like iam just picking at the rules but then its a fact .

 

[Stalker62]

If a tube of what ever gets lost or damaged Just buy another in parts build it sorted !

I tried that once with a firearm. Did not end well...

 

[Sandyb]

If a tube of what ever gets lost or damaged Just buy another in parts build it sorted ! Still only got one ? NVM no numbers no proof marks just a threaded tube much like a oil filter / other . I know it sounds like iam just picking at the rules but then its a fact .

Given the ease and number of FAC revocations, anything but honesty and reasonable precautions to secure the items entered on your FAC could lead to revocation... no-one plans to be burgled, but there's enough scrotes out there all to willing to do it... I wouldn't want to be the one calling my FEO or FLD explaining items entrees on my FAC have been taken from my home... I don't think I was cleaning it would wash... as you wouldn't have been burgled and it taken if you were actually cleaning it..

Either way the OP has his answer. It would be interest to see if the OP and others have the same condition, albeit it may be a different number?

 

[Outstanding in my field]

Given the ease and number of FAC revocations, anything but honesty and reasonable precautions to secure the items entered on your FAC could lead to revocation... no-one plans to be burgled, but there's enough scrotes out there all to willing to do it... I wouldn't want to be the one calling my FEO or FLD explaining items entrees on my FAC have been taken from my home... I don't think I was cleaning it would wash... as you wouldn't have been burgled and it taken if you were actually cleaning it..

Either way the OP has his answer. It would be interest to see if the OP and others have the same condition, albeit it may be a different number?

Will dig out my FAC after work