45-70 Lever Gun

Go for it!

I enjoy shooting my .44 mag and have some hunting loads for it. I would agree, might be a bit small as optimal tool for the big red but could work I think.

350gr bullets I understand do help flatten the trajectory I believe.

Scrummy
 
I had a Marlin 45-70 pre Remington and I loved it. I used it on a few driven boar trips and it rolled em over very well. I wish I still had it .
Just one thing, fitting a moderater is heracy.
Tusker
 
The Henry levers are very well built guns . If you're looking at a used rifle , the older Henry's loaded through a port in the magazine tube , not through a side gate ( Kings patent ) like the Marlin and Winchester levers . It doesn't bother most people , and to be honest , it does make unloading easier , but I prefer the side gate . Early Remington production Marlins , Remlins , did have issues . The later production rifles were fine , I've had two and both are very accurate and reliable . I still have an 1895 Guide Gun that is a consistent 1 moa rifle , my other standard 1895 Remlin is now in Wales with stalker308 . He took a very nice Black Bear with it when he was out hunting with us a while back . He became a convert and took it home .
The new Ruger production rifles are very well built . They sell for about $2000 CDN here so you can expect to pay the same , or more , in pounds sterling , pricey . I'd keep an eye out for a used 1895 Marlin , even a Remlin , and go from there . There are a lot of inexpensive , and useful , upgrade parts and accessories available for them and they all ship to the UK . It's easy , and fun , to put together exactly what you want . I have no idea what the prices for a used Marlin is like in the UK , but I'm sure others on the site can help you out with that .

AB
Thanks this seems like sound advice. The older Marlins seem to be more often wood and blue than the newer ones so I'll put in a variation for 45-70 and look for one of those I think. Thanks for your advice.
 
Fitting a moderator to a levergun, yes, lever gun, not under lever, they are air guns, is akin to fitting a bonnet bikini to the hood of a Rolls Royce silver shadow!
You just don't and shouldn't!
 
One thing that appeals to me about these is they look fairly short and well balanced. I guess putting a moderator on one would spoil that.
 
One thing that appeals to me about these is they look fairly short and well balanced. I guess putting a moderator on one would spoil that.
They look all wrong and just don't need it, like any other rifle really. Just a fashion accessory really. 😁👍🏻
 
The Marlin .444m is a much nicer rifles to shoot than the 45-70 in my opinion and for boar and deer will do everything the 45-70 will with a flatter trajectory.
Mine is doing 2300 fps with 265 inter locks .
I like 444 and have build a few custom single shots in that chambering. Unfortunately, it doesn't have the following of 45-70 so if longevity is your goal, the 45-70 is a better choice. ~Muir
 
The Marlin "Dark" and (I think) Henry X- Series have a threaded muzzle and the front sight set back a bit from the threading so you can use an "end of barrel" moderator.
I saw that some of the current Marlin and Henry rifles came screwcut but the older pre Remington ones don't seem to and I'm not sure there would be enough metal in front of the front sight to screwcut it. Can't find a big enough picture to tell
 
I like 444 and have build a few custom single shots in that chambering. Unfortunately, it doesn't have the following of 45-70 so if longevity is your goal, the 45-70 is a better choice. ~Muir
Do you prefer it because it recoils less than the 45-70? Most 45-70s look like pretty light rifles so I guess you'd really notice the recoil
 
Question: "What 45-70 lever gun should I buy?"
Answer: "Yes" :)

45-70 is a great chambering, heavy slow bullet will knock over most things it hits and the recoil is nowhere near is dramatic as some people would have you believe. I have a "Remlin" 1895 SBL, lovely gun, physically small and handles extremely well. I needed to finish it though, as QC during Remington's ownership was not brilliant but a few hours of polishing and getting rid of unwanted burrs and crap pays dividends. A lighter hammer spring has given me a 2lb trigger which I'm happy with. I actually wanted a Pedersoli Boarbuster Mk2 which is designed around a Winchester 1886/71 action but they are like Hen's teeth and after waiting over a year for one on order I went for the 1895 instead. The Pedersoli would be a great gun if you can find one and although it's a "top launcher" that wouldn't present an issue if you fitted a forward mounted scout scope.
 
Do you prefer it because it recoils less than the 45-70? Most 45-70s look like pretty light rifles so I guess you'd really notice the recoil
I didn't say I preferred it. I said I liked it. I actually prefer the 45-70.
The 444 is fun for handgun shooters who shoot and cast for 44's because you can use those bullets with varying degrees of success. For versatility on game I prefer the 45-70. As far as recoil: "Go big or go home." You don't get to shoot big bores without paying some kind of price. ~Muir
 
I didn't say I preferred it. I said I liked it. I actually prefer the 45-70.
The 444 is fun for handgun shooters who shoot and cast for 44's because you can use those bullets with varying degrees of success. For versatility on game I prefer the 45-70. As far as recoil: "Go big or go home." You don't get to shoot big bores without paying some kind of price. ~Muir
Recoil doesn't bother me too much either and my thinking was that recoil would be fairly noticeable from any .45" ish chambering in a 7lb rifle, so may as well go 45-70.
 
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