Advice needed: Ex partner and threats to call the police.

[Lever357]

My friend who is a gunsmith is preparing three claims against the police for damage caused to firearms when they have forced entry to cabinets and it would appear bundle all the guns in a sheet and wrap them up. This is due to claims by disgruntled wives that their partner may be a danger.

I think from memory, if a wife makes such a claim to the police and they seize the firearms, it is only the person who made the complaint who can rescind it. There was a case where this had happened and the wife died. The police would still not release the firearms and certificate to the guy because she had died without rescinding her complaint.

 

[308tikka]

If the comments and advice posted represent an accurate assessment of the likely outcome of police involvement, whether as a result of a complaint or a request for help or guidance by the cert holder, then you’re all, every single one of you, just a single phone call away from losing your certs.
How did you let it get to this?

or,

Stay resolutely single and monitor the GBP THB exchange rate.

 

[tom.h]

or,

Stay resolutely single and monitor the GBP THB exchange rate.

Better hunting in Argentina lol

and 440 ARS - £1 on the exchange rate.

 

[Ratel]

When my last one took off she had a full cabinet as well. Thankfully she didn't try anything but unbeknown to her mine were lodged with a friend who was an RFD until I settled elsewhere. She retained hers so I could have said "It was her who threatened me" would have been her problem then.

 

[Klenchblaize]

I’m not going to offer advice but rather observe what a sobering thread this is. How could it be otherwise when noting how slender is the thread of UK firearms ownership in the 21st century.

K

 

[User00057]

No experience but if you can I would suggest sticking your guns with local RFD rather than keep them in your house.

I did the same as thought it was a good idea and it took me over a year to get them back still. I also have a flag on my profile the same as if they seized them.
All this and I had done nothing wrong even in my relationship. Ex partners can really couse problems if they want.

 

[Ronin]

Sorry to hear this

Only you know if it’s over

Be honest with yourself

If it is

Get the weapons out and stored

Tell your feo (there’s no point ****ing about)

They will ask you to vol surrender licence

If you don’t they will take it anyway and it will be harder to get back

Now the important bit

Any and I mean any argument, heated discussion or whatever you want to call a inflammatory exchange of words or otherwise - record

On phone on video on any thing you can

You do not want to be in a position that an allegation is made against you and there’s no witness to say - that didn’t happen

Even the phone down in a room recording will get that

You don’t have to point it whilst being engaged in the argument

Don’t raise your voice

Don’t inflame things

Don’t raise anything physical


Let the phone be your witness



Sadly I know many people who have been in your position and not had the wherewithal to keep calm and say nothing

if the partner is going to go and relationship end then end it quick and exit

Hard place to be

I’ve been there

 

[kes]

Hell hath no fury etc etc To anticipate is the key here as many have said but in talking to their FEO they should saay they anticipate their other half will lodge a spurious complaint and you have lodged your guns elsewhere as a result. There used to be FEO's who understood these days, even though its likely many Police go through divorce and know their own responses, they will be risk averse so I would inform a solicitor and lodge your certificate with him. I would also attend regularly at your doctors so all avenues of taking your cert are closed off.
BASC in this situation will not 'go to war' on your behalf and, with no legal insurance as part of membership any longer, their response will be as useful as a chocolate teapot. NGO might be a help though.

 

[Mickeydredd]

With respect, we don't know the nature of the OP's "difficult" behaviour. You're jumping to conclusions in assuming that she's the one with the mental stability issues. As I said, there's two sides to every story, and we've only heard one of them. The one that the OP wants us to hear. Maybe his partner genuinely felt that calling the police would have been appropriate at the time?

Yes, you are correct in that we don’t know the full story, however reading the OP that states she made the threat over him “being difficult” rather than saying he would shoot her etc, and then her later apologising for what she threatened, I think we can make a reasoned judgement!

 

[25 Sharps]

My partner and I have been living together for a number years and as many up and down the country have hit a sour spot in our relationship, we had words the other day and out of the blue she mentioned that if I carry on being difficult she's tell the police as she knows that being a licensed firearms holder they'll have no choice but to confiscate my rifles.

She's since apologised for the outburst but it has got me worrying as I have a clean record and now this is stuck in my head on overdrive.

Has anyone else on here experienced a similar situation and any positive advice you can give would be appreciated.

Get the guns into storage now, preferably without her knowing

 

[JTO]

Any legal challenge is going to be expensive and uncertain outcome and the police obviously know that.

Especially now that BASC insurance no longer covers legal representation.

 

[Liveonce]

It was 4 yrs ago and i moved my guns straight away before anything might happen .

Sadly we have had Plymouth and now Surrey since then, the police will not take any risks with safety now, better to remove the firearms then review the situation.

 

[Liveonce]

This is reality now, waiting months for the review and not being even able to ask for an update.

 

[patrickt]

No experience but if you can I would suggest sticking your guns with local RFD rather than keep them in your house.

Even if you lodge them with an RFD you can still lawfully access access them,t he RFD cannot refuse you access to them the Police would say and the "perceived" prob;em only moves to a different site. I would suggest having a chat with your FEO, and their Manager on a face to face basis. You will have to be absolutley candid with them

If you get stuck PM me, I wil provide you with my contact details and we can discuss

ATB

Patrick

 

[JTO]

Misogyny gave his name to the hatred of women because they would interfere with his hunting. Perhaps he got it right!

 

[John Doe]

Trade her in for a low-mileage Thai model.

I think most of those, whilst in good condition for their age, are often quite high mileage. Not necessarily a bad thing if the price is right, service history is good and they are a desirable enough model to enable them to be moved on relatively easily.

 

[Mickeydredd]

I think most of those, whilst in good condition for their age, are often quite high mileage. Not necessarily a bad thing if the price is right, service history is good and they are a desirable enough model to enable them to be moved on relatively easily.

Just check that they aren't a hybrid before placing your order......

 

[ChesterP]

Relationships all need hard work and commitment by both parties if they're to last, as fact of life. If it is genuinely turning toxic only you can decide whether it is worth remaining and persevering with but you know as well as the rest of us what any complaint could mean, in light of Plymouth especially. I think that Ronin summed it up rather well as general piece of advice.

 

[User00047]

Get a discreet recorder and get her to say why she would call the police, then lodge that with a solicitor.

That is exactly what I was going to recommend.
Set up the recorder and then confront her about how she threatened to make false claims against you. Store for future reference and if she ever threatened again I’d just whip out the recording, play it back to her and say “go tuck yourself”

 

[Druid]

Do this

No experience but if you can I would suggest sticking your guns with local RFD rather than keep them in your house

then this

Get the f out of there….

I am so sorry to say this but if it’s at that point you need to be looking to get away. I watched a person close to me go through a completely toxic divorce, including all the hassles that firearms can throw into the fold and the advice I would give is always be first to contact the police , don’t leave it thinking you don’t want to create a fuss.

I should add this person never got their certs back…it had gone too far and was a complete sh*t show on the side of the police and BASC.

I genuinely feel for you but you do not need someone in your life that tries to hold things over you!

Best of luck.

Gixer

It’ll only happen again and you’ll wonder why you carried on with them after that threat.