Warble large in roe?

[gixer1]

Shot a doe and a follower in the same area and the doe was clean, skinned the follower and found an infestation of warble larve - very unusual in roe here and the first time I have seen it - seen it on reds but never roe and odd that both were in the same area yet only one effected…really off putting, oddly enough it had diarrhoea as well but was not behaving oddly and the nodes were clear but I did not want to risk it so disposed of the carcass.

 

[gixer1]

Typo in the heading…

 

[Foxyboy43]

Yep but pretty big too……

 

[Mossypaw]

Keds……. Not bothered
Ticks……. Annoying
Warble’s…..F##king hate the horrible things !

 

[Malxwal]

Aye, that's dog food. Just not getting that picture out of your minds eye as you tuck into a burger, regardless of whether it's scientifically okay to eat or not...

 

[AGR]

When I was a lad on the farm, we used to squeeze them out for the chickens. Thank goodness those days are gone.

 

[calgeo]

My uncle had a roe in Aberdeenshire many years ago with warble fly. He'd never seen it in roe before either and got another keeper round to have a look. I've probably shot 100's on the same ground since and never seen it again.

 

[gixer1]

My uncle had a roe in Aberdeenshire many years ago with warble fly. He'd never seen it in roe before either and got another keeper round to have a look. I've probably shot 100's on the same ground since and never seen it again.

I have to admit to being a bit surprised at it - never seen it in roe, have any of you guys around the shire shot any with it? Reds, yes…but never roe…

 

[John Gryphon]

I didnt know the name 'warble' so i looked it up and read the UK line below. Can a guru expand on this please.

Treatment and prevention[edit]​

Warble flies have been eradicated in many countries, beginning with Denmark and Western Germany, in the 1960s. It was eradicated in the United Kingdom in 1990.[6][7] It is a notifiable disease. It may have been eradicated from Belgium.

From the 1980s, the preventive treatment is easier, by subcutaneous use of ivermectin, but the warble fly remains present in North Africa.

 

[Stalker62]

This from HMG


Warble fly mainly affects cattle. It can also affect:

• horses
• deer

Warble fly doesn’t affect humans.

The last outbreak in Great Britain was in 1990.

If you suspect the disease in Scotland, you must tell the Animal and Plant Health Agency (APHA) immediately. Failure to do so is an offence.
Warble fly is a notifiable disease in cattle only in Scotland as the England and Wales regulations were revoked from 1 April 2015.

 

[Freeforester]

Where they share ground with red deer they’re not uncommon on roe; the worst one I ever saw was from up at Cawdor on a course Richard Prior was delivering back in the Eighties, will try to dig out a pic, but it had scores of them.

They’re the reason you can’t generally buy beef from animals older than 2 years old in the U.K. a these days, as the mandated treatment is the residual neuro-toxin organophosphate based pour-on, administered running the length of the spine of the animal, which HMG stipulates the highest dosage rate per kg bodyweight of any country. Organic beef is the exception. Overdosing of OP in any mammal results in spongiform encephalopathy (the affected mammal‘s brain turns to mush), hence their reticence to permit the meat of multi-dosed stock into the human food chain.

 

[VSS]

When I was a lad on the farm, we used to squeeze them out for the chickens. Thank goodness those days are gone.

I bet the chickens are hankering for a return to the "good old days" though.

 

[VSS]

I didnt know the name 'warble' so i looked it up and read the UK line below. Can a guru expand on this please.

Treatment and prevention[edit]​

Warble flies have been eradicated in many countries, beginning with Denmark and Western Germany, in the 1960s. It was eradicated in the United Kingdom in 1990.[6][7] It is a notifiable disease. It may have been eradicated from Belgium.

From the 1980s, the preventive treatment is easier, by subcutaneous use of ivermectin, but the warble fly remains present in North Africa.

It has been eradicated in cattle in the UK.
Presumably there are host-specific species of warble, which is why we still see it in deer.

 

[roaring_stag]

We have had roe with warble recently out of a commercial forestry plantation near Crieff. Majority of deer in the site are red, with the odd roe. As @Freeforester says above, were ground shared with reds, esp. in woodland, it is more common.

RS

 

[gixer1]

Well folks, looks like it is notifiable so have just spoken to the local APHA and waiting for the vet to call back.

 

[gixer1]

We have had roe with warble recently out of a commercial forestry plantation near Crieff. Majority of deer in the site are red, with the odd roe. As @Freeforester says above, were ground shared with reds, esp. in woodland, it is more common.

RS

No reds on the ground where this was shot RS…which again, makes it odd.

 

[John Gryphon]

looks like it is notifiable

I did read that somewhere in my search.

 

[gixer1]

This is the beastie in question and as mentioned had diarrhoea but otherwise was acting normally.

 

[John Gryphon]

This is the beastie in question

I read that they were perfectly safe to eat (the infected deer lol)

 

[VSS]

Well folks, looks like it is notifiable so have just spoken to the local APHA and waiting for the vet to call back.

Notifiable in deer? Are you sure? I thought that was just cattle?
They're very common in red deer in areas of the Highlands.

Edit: I think you're right, having just checked. Notifiable in Scotland since 2015. I'm not aware of any stalker who's ever notified it though.....