Anyone stalk with a full stock / stutzen?

Hi there.
have to Steyr Mannlicher in 243 & 308 both Stutzen beautiful very accurate & noisy !! definitely NO BIPOD for me .
wouldn't never change them. brilliant stalking rifles light & fast .
 
Well this is the latest new gun itch that I’m trying to ride out,(always fancied one).

In my head they’re noisy and look daft with a bipod.

On the other side, they look great, you can detach a bipod on and off,(particularly a Spartan) and you tend to only fire a shot or so on a day on the hill.


What’s the verdict? Keep telling myself it would be a daft purchase but interested in what folk on here think?
I love my Mannlicher M72 in .270. Its light & handles great But it is noisy and when I'm with anyone I'm conscious of deafening them. Im therefore going to be trading it in for something more practical.
 
Question as to what are best. The vast majority of bolt actions are built on typical bolt action rifles. So a Sako Stutzen is a Sako rifle built as a stutzen. Ditto for all the others.

Even the Mannlicher Schoeneurs were also built as full length rifles, but they are in many respects the epitome of a schutzen, especially in 6.5 Mannlicher - light, easy to carry, easy to shoot, deadly accurate and with enough power to deal with anything that walks on this planet.

For the adventurous going off to the far corners of our plant in the early 1900s it was in many ways the go to rifle.
 
I won't bid at Holts, their buyer premium plus vat frankly takes the pee.
With any auction you just need ti take the buyers premium and VAT into account when placing a bid. You can still end up with some really well priced things.

As for taking the **** - well auction houses are not doing it for the love of it. And as for VAT on the buyers premium, well that is a government imposed tax that is unavoidable.
 
With any auction you just need ti take the buyers premium and VAT into account when placing a bid. You can still end up with some really well priced things.

As for taking the **** - well auction houses are not doing it for the love of it. And as for VAT on the buyers premium, well that is a government imposed tax that is unavoidable.
Southams 17.5% + VAT = 21p / £1 on hammer.
Holts 25% + VAT = 30pee / £ hammer.
Thats without stupid on line premiums.
No more London viewings so would require a hell of a journey to view anything at Holts. So whilst they have the name, the bidder value / experience is frankly poor.
 
Southams 17.5% + VAT = 21p / £1 on hammer.
Holts 25% + VAT = 30pee / £ hammer.
Thats without stupid on line premiums.
No more London viewings so would require a hell of a journey to view anything at Holts. So whilst they have the name, the bidder value / experience is frankly poor.
That's true. It was a great opportunity to try out guns, become familiar with them, find out what you liked etc. And that's gone now. So personally I won't buy a gun from them again because I can't go to Holkham. But I can also understand they never made any serious money from me. Only problem is, from an individual punter perspective, there isn't any equivalent alternative to see and handle so many guns. It just doesn't exist. So you have to buy blind.
 
With any auction you just need ti take the buyers premium and VAT into account when placing a bid. You can still end up with some really well priced things.

As for taking the **** - well auction houses are not doing it for the love of it. And as for VAT on the buyers premium, well that is a government imposed tax that is unavoidable.
As noted above - good guns at attractive prices (from the buyers point of view) do come up at auction. I’ve brought three excellent firearms (2 shotguns & a rifle) from Holts, the most recent was last year. I‘m careful though plus I don’t exceed my self imposed fairly low ceiling working on the principle that it I get it then I’ve got a good deal but it I don’t then there’s another ‘temptation’ coming along soon.

I’ve seen some ’problem’ guns get sent to auction as well so as ever - buyer beware.
 
Southams 17.5% + VAT = 21p / £1 on hammer.
Holts 25% + VAT = 30pee / £ hammer.
Thats without stupid on line premiums.
No more London viewings so would require a hell of a journey to view anything at Holts. So whilst they have the name, the bidder value / experience is frankly poor.
Well no one location is going to suit everyone is it? That said - somewhere a bit more central than Sandringham would have been good but I can appreciate the benefits of working fully from company HQ & not having to transport so many firearms about.
 
Well this is the latest new gun itch that I’m trying to ride out,(always fancied one).

In my head they’re noisy and look daft with a bipod.

On the other side, they look great, you can detach a bipod on and off,(particularly a Spartan) and you tend to only fire a shot or so on a day on the hill.


What’s the verdict? Keep telling myself it would be a daft purchase but interested in what folk on here think?
i used a BSA CF2 Stutzen in 30/06 and loved it for in the woods and high seats, great off the sticks but not a hill/mountain rifle. The old Sako stutzen is a two piece stock bbrilliant
 
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