Nature agency culls Highland estate deer after landowner failure

[Bushpig]

Nature agency culls Highland estate deer after landowner failure

 

[Apthorpe]

Surprised that they're entitled to remove the beasts and help themselves to the venison.

 

[nun_hunter]

Surprised that they're entitled to remove the beasts and help themselves to the venison.

I imagine it was part of the cost to the landowner of having to go in plus the bad press to everyone if the deer had been left behind.

 

[Island]

Surprised that they're entitled to remove the beasts and help themselves to the venison.

Deer (Scotland) Act 1996 - Part II, Section 8, Subsection 8.

"Where [F4SNH] [F7is] of the opinion that any owner or occupier of land has failed to comply with subsection (7) above, [F8it ] shall carry out the requirement, if [F8it ][F7is] satisfied that it is still necessary to do so; and where the carrying out of such a requirement involves the killing or taking of deer, [F4SNH] shall have power to dispose by sale or otherwise of any deer so killed or taken."

Further to the above if the cost of the Control Scheme enforcement exceeds the monies recovered from sale of venison then Nature Scot will recover the excess from the landowner in question.

 

[SimonDodsworth]

Nature agency culls Highland estate deer after landowner failure

They should have just advertised some free stalking on here. I’m sure they would have had plenty of takers

 

[Rake Aboot]

If Stalkers could access license / ticket based hunting as they can in other countries it wouldn't be an issue.

 

[opticron1]

This was covered in a previous thread a while back, apparently the owners of the Loch Choire estate had not taken part in the required deer cull as mandated by our wonderful Government. There are rules that all land owners have to live by - even if they don't agree with them. The fact that the local deer management group agreed with action should tell you enough. An estate I've been on before also tried to ignore the deer cull numbers, until they realised they were going to be charged for external cullers to be brought in at cost to the owner.

 

[User00040]

They should have just advertised some free stalking on here. I’m sure they would have had plenty of takers

And no one up to the job.

 

[HonestJohn]

And no one up to the job.

except you of course

 

[Rake Aboot]

And no one up to the job.

A bit presumptuous no ?

I take it only "qualified professional" stalkers are up to the job ?


Actually I'll edit that, what aload of crap ! plenty recreational stalkers are bloody good at stalking.

 

[Smellydog]

I stopped going all the way to Scotland to pay for shooting some one else's problem.
Instead of paying they should be inviting individuals to come and get some.
Producing a shooting CV or portfolio should or could be requested by an estate maybe.

 

[User00040]

I take it only "qualified professional" stalkers are up to the job?

Yes.

If your average SD pundit turned up, they would probably be less competent than a 'Del Boy Stalker' (No insurance, No DSC, No FAC... )

Actually I'll edit that, what aload of crap ! plenty recreational stalkers are bloody good at stalking.

Yes, I know some who are either at the same standard or better than most 'pros' but they would also want to have compensation for time and expenses, so no longer 'free stalking'.

 

[Rake Aboot]

Niether of which is true of course but shows a massive sense of self importance.

 

[Malxwal]

There's sneaking up on them and pulling the trigger, then there's the logistics of getting the carcasses out and processed. Imagining it as a free for all for pleasure stalkers is utter nonsense. The estate, having ignored the onus put upon them to comply, were hardly going to lend their resources to help.
It's a done thing now, no point getting in a twist about it.

 

[Rake Aboot]

There's sneaking up on them and pulling the trigger, then there's the logistics of getting the carcasses out and processed. Imagining it as a free for all for pleasure stalkers is utter nonsense. The estate, having ignored the onus put upon them to comply, were hardly going to lend their resources to help.
It's a done thing now, no point getting in a twist about it.

I for one, never mentioned any free for all.

If hunting was available using a ticket/license based system similar to the US or other countries then more deer would be shot where it is required.

Remember, stalking is pest control. Are folk saying only professional pest controllers should control pests ?

 

[bogtrotter]

There is nothing new in this has been happening for the last forty years at least.
However it is a last resort estates are given every opportunity to rectify the problem.

 

[Rake Aboot]

Indeed.

Would be more news worthy if they used helicopters and semi auto's though lol.

 

[bogtrotter]

They should have just advertised some free stalking on here. I’m sure they would have had plenty of takers

Why should it be free how would you get them off the hill do you expect the estate to do that for you for free.
There are very few estates that will let you stalk unaccompanied do you expect to be guided for free as well.
I think you need to get real.

 

[Dave_45]

Has any estate ever said nope you aren't coming on to kill deer and as a consequence had legal action taken against them?

 

[Kalahari]

Why should it be free how would you get them off the hill do you expect the estate to do that for you for free.
There are very few estates that will let you stalk unaccompanied do you expect to be guided for free as well.
I think you need to get real.

It might still be cheaper, even with the extras,than paying government rates for culling. Have to agree that sorting the wheat from the chaff on the stalkers would be difficult.

David.