1 MOA at 1,000 yards

Well I’m looking forwards to the next episode

Was nice to see an FN Winnie in the mix in the first episode
 
I can speak from personal experience of shooting 308 Win 175gn SMK handloads from a 24-inch barrel police-military rifle at up to 1,000.
@Laurie

I hope you will forgive me saying so - but I hope you never underestimate the value of your 'posts' to folk like me.

Oft times, I will scribble down a few salient words from your entires, and they just sit in my 'long distance' file to help me try and get my head around all this nonsense...


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My first experience of 1000y. I remember it being pretty daunting but a really good learning experience. Unfortunately the shot marker system wouldn't work for me as the rounds weren't fast enough to register but watching the guys next to me showed how much a few FPS difference in MV moves the impact up and down

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My first experience of 1000y. I remember it being pretty daunting but a really good learning experience. Unfortunately the shot marker system wouldn't work for me as the rounds weren't fast enough to register but watching the guys next to me showed how much a few FPS difference in MV moves the impact up and down

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Fair play for effort

Diggle is a hard place with 308 - even more so with short ish barrel and low power scope to aim with

ES very important for longer range consistency - you really want to be sub double digit if possible to get as minimal vertical dispersion as possible
 
@Laurie

I hope you will forgive me saying so - but I hope you never underestimate the value of your 'posts' to folk like me.

Oft times, I will scribble down a few salient words from your entires, and they just sit in my 'long distance' file to help me try and get my head around all this nonsense...


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FYI: Not sure if you can get it, but with 47.5grs of MR2000 with a 175gr SMK, you'll find nirvana. 2700+ fps...

MR2000 is the pixie dust for a 308 and heavy bullets.
 
The video in OP is not a 1 MoA group at 1000 yards. This is not particularly difficult provided you are allowed a few rounds to get onto it and the wind is moderately constant. It is a first round impact on a 1 MoA target at 1000 yards. This is always more difficult. You would need to take into account all atmospherics and power temperature.

The 308 is not the ideal cartridge to do it with as it will be transonic at 1000yd/900m unless you have a long barrel and load hot. I'm also dubious of the benefits of 175 grain 308 bullets over 155 grain. I can't be bothered getting my phone out right now but I think the 155 gr SMK and Hornady 155gr ELDM has more retained velocity at 1000x than the 175 SMK out of my rifle.

The video in OP is also a US video. It is generally easier in the US as there are large expanses of flat land where the wind is consistent over all the flightpath of the bullet. In the UK there is much more likely to be uneven terrain leading to variable wind.
 
FYI: Not sure if you can get it, but with 47.5grs of MR2000 with a 175gr SMK, you'll find nirvana. 2700+ fps...

MR2000 is the pixie dust for a 308 and heavy bullets.

We can, but at that price it better be farking pixie dust!

All Alliant powder is unaffordable now, unless it's old stock:cry:

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The video in OP is not a 1 MoA group at 1000 yards. This is not particularly difficult provided you are allowed a few rounds to get onto it and the wind is moderately constant. It is a first round impact on a 1 MoA target at 1000 yards. This is always more difficult. You would need to take into account all atmospherics and power temperature.

The 308 is not the ideal cartridge to do it with as it will be transonic at 1000yd/900m unless you have a long barrel and load hot. I'm also dubious of the benefits of 175 grain 308 bullets over 155 grain. I can't be bothered getting my phone out right now but I think the 155 gr SMK and Hornady 155gr ELDM has more retained velocity at 1000x than the 175 SMK out of my rifle.

The video in OP is also a US video. It is generally easier in the US as there are large expanses of flat land where the wind is consistent over all the flightpath of the bullet. In the UK there is much more likely to be uneven terrain leading to variable wind.
Sir I am willing to buy you large quantities of expensive whiskey should you inform me of "consistent" wind within 300 miles of my home area.
 
So, just how much better are the latest must have calibres like the PRC’s or the crudmoor ‘s at this distance?
Anyone shoot the .270 at 1000yds and how does it perform?
 
So, just how much better are the latest must have calibres like the PRC’s or the crudmoor ‘s at this distance?
Anyone shoot the .270 at 1000yds and how does it perform?

'Calibre' (I think you mean chambering) is near irrelevant.

Bullets are everything!

There is a reason why competition shooters (not extreme long range) are using smaller and smaller calibres.

A 6.5 mm bullet of around 140 grain weight has the potential to be more aerodynamic compared to a 7mm one of the same weight.

Now you have Hornady making 6mm bullets which have better ballistics than 6.5mm ones (109 grain ELDX shown on the left).

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If you can push a smaller calibre, more slippery bullet at a faster speed, you have an advantage.

There are several 6mm's in the video above
 
I’m shooting 6.5 143 grain ELDx out to 1200m

That is about its limit for me at the MV that I can safely get out of my 26” barrel

That distance is a real struggle with ES and poor wind calls confounding my best efforts

It is both fun and fascinating but I can’t shoot those distances often enough to really get to grips with the challenge
 
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FYI: Not sure if you can get it, but with 47.5grs of MR2000 with a 175gr SMK, you'll find nirvana. 2700+ fps...

MR2000 is the pixie dust for a 308 and heavy bullets.
@MarinePMI

Right then.

I have just ordered 500 of those bullets.

Getting hold of 2000MR in the UK does appear to be an issue.

Usual caveats apply.

Do you have a 'similar' powder that I could reach (see what I did there) for.

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I have any number of tubs of Vit. (I say Vit. because I cannot spell Vihtavuori) various flavours.
 
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@MarinePMI

Right then.

I have just ordered 500 of those bullets.

Getting hold of 2000MR in the UK does appear to be an issue.

Usual caveats apply.

Do you have a 'similar' powder that I could reach (see what I did there) for.

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I have any number of tubs of Vit. (I say Vit. because I cannot spell Vihtavuori) various flavours.
I have no idea of an equivalent, sorry. :( Looking at the 2023 burn rate chart, maybe V N540? But I have zero experience with Vit powders, since they are prohibitively expensive here in the US.

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