Sako 90

[Acm]

Is that the full carbon jobby? If so it’s cheap by comparison to the likes of sauer-another thread on here showing one in a carbon stock for sale at £8k!!!

I hope this is a return to form for sako, the prices seem decent, a few issues addressed, the time tested flush, steel, 5 shot mag, easy to top load

I agree, I think they’ve done a good job here.

 

[Acm]

Here's a more complete list of prices, all without sales tax. The Quest Ultra is not listed on Beretta Aus.

Hunter AUD 3045 (GBP 1635)
Hunter Stainless AUD 3235 (GBP 1737)
Quest AUD 6363 (GBP 3416)
Peak AUD 5454 (GBP 2928)
Bavarian AUD 3226 (GBP 1732)
Adventure AUD 4454 (GBP 2391)
Varmint AUD 3180 (GBP 1707)

No info on when they will be available. Doesn't worry me much as I'll be sticking with my AI and my 85s

Cheers

For a bit of context mate, what are you guys paying for a new t3x

 

[HonestJohn]

I’m positively surprised, but still shocked they did not put a full length rail on there, they did not add flush cups, and are not offering two Mags as standard. Also, they should be offering a 0 full length and a 20MOA full length rail.

By only having 0MOA rail they’ve immediately excluded themselves from anyone wanting to use their rifle for long range shooting. A bit silly IMHO.

Price for the top model is a tad
More than a used Parker Hale that will do the same job, but it’s not insane money either for a carbon fibre job.

6.5x55 will be launched
surely, everyone in the Nordic regions uses one.

280REM or 7PRC would be the two most interesting chamberings IMHO.

For the US market, they’ve got to have .308, 7RM, 6.5CM, 30-06, 300WM for starters

Not surprised there’s no 270win, it’s a dead dog along with the 7x57 and 25-06 in new rifles…read, in new rifles..

 

[Dave Lakes]

I’m positively surprised, but still shocked they did not put a full length rail on there, they did not add flush cups, and are not offering two Mags as standard. Also, they should be offering a 0 full length and a 20MOA full length rail.

By only having 0MOA rail they’ve immediately excluded themselves from anyone wanting to use their rifle for long range shooting. A bit silly IMHO.

Price for the top model is a tad
More than a used Parker Hale that will do the same job, but it’s not insane money either for a carbon fibre job.

6.5x55 will be launched
surely, everyone in the Nordic regions uses one.

280REM or 7PRC would be the two most interesting chamberings IMHO.

For the US market, they’ve got to have .308, 7RM, 6.5CM, 30-06, 300WM for starters

Not surprised there’s no 270win, it’s a dead dog along with the 7x57 and 25-06 in new rifles…read, in new rifles..

How is .270 a dead calibre? I know loads of people buying brand new .270. I hope they do a .270, these look really nice

 

[HonestJohn]

How is .270 a dead calibre? I know loads of people buying brand new .270. I hope they do a .270, these look really nice

I think with the move towards copper, the 270 performance can easily be replicated and outperformed by more modern chamberings, my feelings in the market is that there's a move away from the 270W. we'll see, time will tell

 

[User00040]

I think with the move towards copper, the 270 performance can easily be replicated and outperformed by more modern chamberings, my feelings in the market is that there's a move away from the 270W. we'll see, time will tell

Stick a fast twist barrel on and it'll be fine for another 100 years.

The age of the RFD's and factory ammo limitations means 280AI is a non-starter here.

 

[HonestJohn]

The age of the RFD's and factory ammo limitations means 280AI is a non-starter here.

they said the same here for about 2 years when the 6.5 'Hornady' CM was launched in the US. Then of course, we called it the HCM. Now even the oldest fartiest grouchiest RFD probably has some 6.5CM factory ammo on their shelf.

 

[HonestJohn]

and where is the 2 stage trigger option? or did I miss that one

 

[spanj]

Never had an issue with my four 85s. Wait up! I'm lying. the mag on my, at the time, brand new .223 Hunter Stainless would not feed properly. Beretta Australia got that sorted toot sweet

Cheers

No offence but it’s tout suite

 

[User00040]

they said the same here for about 2 years when the 6.5 'Hornady' CM was launched in the US. Then of course, we called it the HCM. Now even the oldest fartiest grouchiest RFD probably has some 6.5CM factory ammo on their shelf.

What happened to the Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum and Winchester Short Magnum/Super Short Magnum?

Yes, you can buy boutique brass but factory ammo?

For every success story there are many failures, same goes for cartridges. The Winchester 6.8 Western seems stillborn...

Not to mention the issue of the SAAMI spec 280AI by Nosler not being 1:1 with the previously recognised wildcat derived from the 280 Remington/7mm Express.

 

[rem284]

270, capable but is 100 year technology. Never been a one that target shooters have adopted and that's not without reason. There has always been more research and development put into 6mm, 6.5mm, 7mm and 30cal bullets. It's well proven a short, fat, squarer shouldered case is more efficient and the 270 hasn't got these. With all the modern advances put into rifles, scopes etc, then chambering it in 270 is like get the latest high performance sports car but asking for it to have a Morris Minor engine

 

[TringSaint]

Is that the full carbon jobby? If so it’s cheap by comparison to the likes of sauer-another thread on here showing one in a carbon stock for sale at £8k!!!

I hope this is a return to form for sako, the prices seem decent, a few issues addressed, the time tested flush, steel, 5 shot mag, easy to top load

Maybe I am just tight (correction, I am tight!!) but it’s a lot of dosh.
Carbon stock? Ok. But other than a bit of stiffness and a drop of a few grammes in weight, it a big price to pay (see previous comment re diminishing returns).
Nice looking rifle, but a price point I couldn’t and wouldn’t want to justify.

My rifles are tools and I want them to be functional not over engineered.

 

[Border]

Looking forward to handling one at Elmia next weekend. Don't want to prejudge it but.....I would still buy a Tikka T3X over a modern SAKO atm.

 

[Dave Lakes]

270, capable but is 100 year technology. Never been a one that target shooters have adopted and that's not without reason. There has always been more research and development put into 6mm, 6.5mm, 7mm and 30cal bullets. It's well proven a short, fat, squarer shouldered case is more efficient and the 270 hasn't got these. With all the modern advances put into rifles, scopes etc, then chambering it in 270 is like get the latest high performance sports car but asking for it to have a Morris Minor engine

Come on now! That’s a bad analogy. That’s like saying a 1 lite hybrid is better than a v8 because it’s 100 year old technology!

It’s got the least 500yd drop of any main stream chambering (including the more modern 6.5CM) and lots of factory ammo options and availability.

Granted there may be better target specific chamberings, but the Sako 90 is clearly not intended to be a target rifle.

 

[JH83]

Maybe I am just tight (correction, I am tight!!) but it’s a lot of dosh.
Carbon stock? Ok. But other than a bit of stiffness and a drop of a few grammes in weight, it a big price to pay (see previous comment re diminishing returns).
Nice looking rifle, but a price point I couldn’t and wouldn’t want to justify.

My rifles are tools and I want them to be functional not over engineered.

Oh don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t buy one with a carbon stock in a month of Sundays, but by comparison it’s not that extortionate. I think the carbon browning offering is well north of 2k, sauers you need a remortgage, blasers a bank robbery.

I’m fairly old school too. It looked like the varmint is circa £2k, stainless/synthetic £1800. That’s pretty good for a highish end product. I just hope the bedding isn’t a dogs dinner.

 

[User00040]

270, capable but is 100 year technology. Never been a one that target shooters have adopted and that's not without reason. There has always been more research and development put into 6mm, 6.5mm, 7mm and 30cal bullets. It's well proven a short, fat, squarer shouldered case is more efficient and the 270 hasn't got these. With all the modern advances put into rifles, scopes etc, then chambering it in 270 is like get the latest high performance sports car but asking for it to have a Morris Minor engine

Depends how the US Army get on with the 277 SIG FURY

If Winchester got their act together and released some of these bullets as components, there might be more interest (however, a 1:8 or 1:7.5" twist is needed!)

 

[norcan]

270, capable but is 100 year technology. Never been a one that target shooters have adopted and that's not without reason. There has always been more research and development put into 6mm, 6.5mm, 7mm and 30cal bullets. It's well proven a short, fat, squarer shouldered case is more efficient and the 270 hasn't got these. With all the modern advances put into rifles, scopes etc, then chambering it in 270 is like get the latest high performance sports car but asking for it to have a Morris Minor engine

Is it really? Cartridges of similar capacity all perform pretty much the same. I mean, centrefire smokeless-powder rifles are about a 150-year-old technology and the performance improvements have come from developments in bullet profile and powder chemistry, not case design.

Bullet selection is one thing, but I'm yet to be convinced that switching to trendy stubbier cases that don't feed as smoothly gives any meaningful benefit aside from letting Amercians run the cartridges in an AR-10 platform (c.f. 6.5x55 vs. 6.5CM).

I'll bet you that the 30-06 sticks around a lot longer than the latest wonder chambering that's being marketed.

 

[User00040]

Oh don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t buy one with a carbon stock in a month of Sundays, but by comparison it’s not that extortionate. I think the carbon browning offering is well north of 2k, sauers you need a remortgage, blasers a bank robbery.

I’m fairly old school too. It looked like the varmint is circa £2k, stainless/synthetic £1800. That’s pretty good for a highish end product. I just hope the bedding isn’t a dogs dinner.

Have a feeling that 'carbon' is now being used like 'turbo' was back in the 80's... TURBO Porsche, washing machine, sunglasses, clothes iron... etc



I can turn your wood stock into a carbon one, FOC!

 

[antsa]

For a bit of context mate, what are you guys paying for a new t3x

This info is taken from Beretta Aus' homepage. There are a plethora of models so I'll just list two:

Tikka T3x Hunter Fluted, wood: AUD 1699 (GBP 912) - AUD 1954 (GBP 1049) depending upon configuration.

Tikka T3x Hunter Stainless, wood: AUD 1735 (GBP 931) - AUD 1990 (GBP 1068) depending upon configuration.

Prices before sales tax.

Cheers

 

[antsa]

Looking forward to handling one at Elmia next weekend. Don't want to prejudge it but.....I would still buy a Tikka T3X over a modern SAKO atm.

OK mate, check out the recoil solution for us! Is that in Jönköping? I will be in Sweden next week visiting my daughter but don't think i can find the time.

Cheers