England vs Scotland Deer Act.
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StephenToast
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The accent?
Differences in suitable calibre/ammunition and season dates also known as foolishness and parochial self interest.
A pita especially if you are mixed race and can plunder both sides of the big devide(well if snp) get their way. Scotland's deer acts do seem to be more logical and they are will to amend things as times change.
No logical reason why they should be different.
There is also no logical reason why they should be the same.
Two different countries with their.own laws
( on many things though not all)
There is also no logical reason why they should be the same.
Two different countries with their.own laws
( on many things though not all)
Heym SR20
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Google is a fantastic tool. Here is Deer Act England 1991
Deer Act 1991
An Act to consolidate certain enactments relating to deer with amendments to give effect to recommendations of the Law Commission.
And here is Deer Act (Scotland) 1996
Deer (Scotland) Act 1996
An Act to consolidate the legislation relating to deer in Scotland.
Section 4 of Animal Welfare Act also comes into effect on Suffering of Animals
Animal Welfare Act 2006
An Act to make provision about animal welfare; and for connected purposes.
Any body who hunts should have a working knowledge of the Law in the Jurisdiction in which they hunt.
A good summary for Scotland is here Statutory guides - Best Practice Guidance
And England
The major differences are how the executive has powers to manage and control deer and prescribe actions for the management.
We are better shots in Scotland. Or the English roe are harder. Daft especially when roe in the Borders could be in one country ne minute and in another the next
Quite agree and I live near the border and would much prefer to use a 22 centre fire
Heym SR20
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Yup two different legislations made by different legislators. It’s why we can loose our driving licence with 50mg of alcohol in our blood, whereas south its 80mg. Its why North you are tried by a sheriff with 15 Jurors with three verdicts whereas down south its a judge with 12 jurors and two verdicts.
Scots law works on the Roman Law system where you look at the law and what is implied by the law and within a contract or agreement.
Whereas in England its very much down to the exact letter of the law and exact letter of any contract or agreement supported by case law to give interpretation.
As to min calibre, etc in England this prescribed in the Deer Act and thus needs an act of parliament. In Scotland, te Deer Act (Scotland) devolves this power to the secretary of state or executive to impose conditions they see fit.
long_range_rob
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Ask the BDS.
It's sod all to do with BDS, it's down to the fact that these are two different countries with legislative systems. Both of which predate BDS by a good few centuries.
long_range_rob
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My understanding was that they were the main opposition to .22CF on Roe when it was permitted on small deer.
@theroedeerguy
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The Deer (Scotland) Act 1996 is long overdue an update and review of the powers within.
A general evidence warrant will normally be able to be executed a month or within a reasonable amount of time from when it is granted.
A search warrant granted under the powers of the Deer (Scotland) Act 1996 is valid for 1 week from when it is granted.
Sentencing tariffs also lag behind other wildlife crime legislative powers.
A general evidence warrant will normally be able to be executed a month or within a reasonable amount of time from when it is granted.
A search warrant granted under the powers of the Deer (Scotland) Act 1996 is valid for 1 week from when it is granted.
Sentencing tariffs also lag behind other wildlife crime legislative powers.
@theroedeerguy
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The legislation governing the use of specific calibres was in place in Scotland long before the Deer (Scotland) Act 1996 in the form of the Deer (Firearms etc.) (Scotland) Order 1985.
You can at least use it on muntjac. Could you shoo any spare ones my way.Different seasons - fine no biggie, just look them up depending on the day.
The one I really don’t get is .22 CF for roe. I’d love to use my .222 as a light weight summer gun as it’s perfect for roe and munty, but unfortunately I can’t
A bit disappointed with this.
Hopefully most people who stalk on both sides of the border have already taken the time to research and understand the law regarding shooting deer in England and Scotland, so asking on SD if anyone knows what the differences is just lazy, and a bit insulting.
Go away and do your own research.....
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