Electric Car Debate

What if the mining engineer is right, and there ain’t enough resources for everyone? 🤔 Electric car options might just be so much of a distraction:

 
Soon, coming to a town near you - Switzerland to Ban EV's From the Roads During Winter Weather Events

Guess the government will just use the smart meter (saving you electricity) to turn off EV charging and possibly putting an additional 'Green' tax on the public EV chargers and limiting the charging to 50% to keep it fair for everyone in the coming years. Feels like many are sleep walking into a virtual electric lockdown in the coming years.
 
They might not sleep so soundly if they knew about the recent E-vents ( the Great Fire of Luton being but one example), and word gets around. Leaving aside the strong economic disincentives, people are generally a bit risk averse, especially those who feel concerned about the environment enough to ‘help save the planet’ by buying a new electric car!

 
That's blatant 'shaming' - what heap of junk do you drive that never breaks down then?
i have driven many piles of junk , landcruisers to 911's and a handful of JLR products both new and used , every single JLR product i have owned has required me to be recovered in the first month due to breakdown with the exception of a 110 V8 (1984 iirc) which only required recovery because i drowned it and wound it out of the ford on it's starter motor which ruined the starter

my experience of landrover products concours with the reliability surveys of the last 3 decades......................
 
This will all start when enough people have bought into the idea of EV's and we are all beyond turning back. A way off yet... they have to sell it to people in some fashion...
you mean like when we were all encouraged to buy diesels as the answer with cheaper fuel etc and then once we had all committed fuel prices rocketed over petrol prices and we were all suddenly destroying the enviroment
 
you mean like when we were all encouraged to buy diesels as the answer with cheaper fuel etc and then once we had all committed fuel prices rocketed over petrol prices and we were all suddenly destroying the enviroment
Yes, exactly this @tackb "The blind leading the partially sighted" springs to mind...
 
I filled up with petrol yesterday at a local service station that had one of these electric charging pay to charge stations. It had two cables so two cars could be charged at once. I asked the guy at the cash desk how long it took to charge an average car. He told me ninety minutes! I was in, and out, with my petrol car in under nine minutes.
Completely right. I have an EV for work and it’s added 10+ hours to my working week plus I can’t drive to sites on consecutive days, because of the time to charge - normally 3.5 hours to get back to full charge. Max range in the cold is 140 miles. For my own driving when not at work I drive an inappropriate car - Mercedes CLS 350 CDI - I get 750 miles range and 10 mins tops to fill up the tank… it’s low mileage, fast, quiet, I can carry my guns in the boot and it’s cleverer and safer than me. £10k bargain.
 
Hi,
One of my girls works for a large utility company and drives a diesel van.
Recently herself and 2 others got sent from Manc. area to work in Portsmouth for a week.
One guy has an EV and he was several hours later arriving than the 2 diesel drivers, plus he needed to find a charger when he got to their hotel so he could go to work the next morning!
Same when job finished and heading home.
Ken.
 
i have finished worrying about things i dont argue the toss anymore e.g. the worlds problems i just get on with my life by the time the world has sorted its problems out we will all be dead bs :banghead:
 
most disco's wouldn't run 9 weeks without breaking down never mind 9 years .............
When I had a Disco a SA mate used to call it a Land Rover Recovery and pointed out how economical they were on the back of a recovery vehicle. He ran a RAV4 with about 250000 miles on it.
 
Just been talking to someone who works for a Vauxhall dealer. He told me that if the computer says the battery has been charged too often with fast chargers, the battery warranty is void.
 
i heard on the news that insurance companys are starting to refuse to insure EV's due to the costs of repairs after a minor shunt if the battery gets damaged
 
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