Electric Car Debate

[Ade8mm]

Well

It is not just electric vehicles.

The wind farm grift is now imploding too. Massive outflow of investment in the sector as investors wise up to it being is a complete non-starter.
A net detractor both financially and Carbon-wise
It is an environmental catastrophe. When it comes to "renewables" wreaking havoc on the environment wind turbines have stiff competition

All this rubbish completely relies on subsidies and grants (other peoples money)

Tesla would be worth shite were it not for subsidies . It is over-valued at a mere fraction of the current price.

Drax, the oh so wonderful "Green energy" company who import (on ships across the Atlantic no less) previously dried (at a great emissions cost) wood-chips to burn in the UK just so the UK can tell the World we are "meeting our targets" by ticking a box. A great example of exporting the perceived issue overseas

Apologists will say (and they have to me ) "Ah but. It is a by-product of the timber industry"
I say "OK, so use it where it falls"

Drax garnered £885 million from tax-payers in 2021 by way of subsidies yet issued gross profits in the same year of £ 121.5 MILLION
(For the numerically challenged that is £7.635million profit that UK tax payers have generated) for Drax in order for the UK to tick a "net zero" target box.
Fair enough. It is not illegal for them to game the system- which is exactly what they are doing.
And they still receive subsidies. Work that one out.

Forgive me for thinking something is massively wrong here

We are clearly getting mugged-off just so Whitehall apparatchiks can tick a box.

Ade

People often counter with;

"Well we have to start somewhere"

Well let's assume we do (not agreeing but let's play along).

I reply;

"OK but why start from the wrong place heading in the wrong direction?"

This is usually met with a long pause as they try to come up with a valid answer and then give up.

Ade

 

[Smellydog]

Lad at work was saying how his mum has just got a 2t plus ev BMW.
I told him to not park it close to the house.
He laughed so I showed him a newspaper article entitled " my BMW ev destroyed 8 high street shops!"
He stopped laughing....

 

[Basil H]

There is an interesting little piece in today's Guardian (on line) : "EV mythbusters" which looks at actual stats for vehicle fires.

 

[Foxyboy43]

Interesting letter this a.m. - made me chuckle too.

 

[John Gryphon]

I see the word irrelevant above...no I didnt view the video.

I see a small place like Canberra can do 10,000 homes...howzabout Melb/Syd/London what could their rubbish provide?

Gas produced by landfill is being captured and turned into energy to power Canberra homes

Renewable energy generated from methane produced by Canberra's Mugga Lane landfill is expected to power 10,800 homes and further cut greenhouse gas emissions under an expanded capture project.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Smellydog]

I see the word irrelevant above...no I didnt view the video.

I see a small place like Canberra can do 10,000 homes...howzabout Melb/Syd/London what could their rubbish provide?

Gas produced by landfill is being captured and turned into energy to power Canberra homes

Renewable energy generated from methane produced by Canberra's Mugga Lane landfill is expected to power 10,800 homes and further cut greenhouse gas emissions under an expanded capture project.

www.abc.net.au

I worked on methane run engines at such a landfill site many years ago in Linlithgo, Scotland.

 

[Foxyboy43]