Tips on zeroing.223?

German gunsmiths do it with one shot. They bore sight first then hold the rifle rock steady perhaps in a vice apparatus "boom" bullet goes say 4 inch right and 3 inch low. Smith then moves the reticule right and down till it centres over that bullet hole. See it on you tube too.
Excellent if you are shooting from a vice. Nae much use if there is a human and its foibles behind the gun. The shooter influences zero, its not just an alignment issue
 
Excellent if you are shooting from a vice. Nae much use if there is a human and its foibles behind the gun. The shooter influences zero, its not just an alignment issue
Exactly the vice or v bag and rest is a bit hard to lug around or get the timing for the wind
 
I have just gave my expiation in a much shorter version as yours sounds like someone playing the castanets with all that
CLICKING AND TO THE LEFT TO THE RIGHT.. :lol:




The OP asked a question, got some answers and has some choices. Assuming he has a longer attention span than you, he will get this rifle zeroed in 2 shots and be happy. If he doesn't, he can spend his time clicking this way and that and can ask some more questions when he has shot through 20 rounds.

Just because you and I can zero a scope without thinking about it, does not mean others can. We all started somewhere.

Did you fall out the womb being able to weld? Of course you didn't.
 
The OP asked a question, got some answers and has some choices. Assuming he has a longer attention span than you, he will get this rifle zeroed in 2 shots and be happy. If he doesn't, he can spend his time clicking this way and that and can ask some more questions when he has shot through 20 rounds.

Just because you and I can zero a scope without thinking about it, does not mean others can. We all started somewhere.

Did you fall out the womb being able to weld? Of course you didn't.
Simply putting on the brain would lead to the same result.
 
The OP asked a question, got some answers and has some choices. Assuming he has a longer attention span than you, he will get this rifle zeroed in 2 shots and be happy. If he doesn't, he can spend his time clicking this way and that and can ask some more questions when he has shot through 20 rounds.

Just because you and I can zero a scope without thinking about it, does not mean others can. We all started somewhere.

Did you fall out the womb being able to weld? Of course you didn't.
Quite I learnt to braze by watching as at 12 they didn't teach it in my school I watched my Dad.
 
Boresight it. Take a shot. Whilst holding the rifle dead still, adjust the scope to move the reticle from bullseye directly onto where your first shot hit. One shot zero. Then shoot another to confirm/fine tune, and finally a 3-5 shot group.
Just remember to turn the turret the opposite way to the what you think / they say, when bringing the rest in line with the bore….
 
The OP asked a question, got some answers and has some choices. Assuming he has a longer attention span than you, he will get this rifle zeroed in 2 shots and be happy. If he doesn't, he can spend his time clicking this way and that and can ask some more questions when he has shot through 20 rounds.

Just because you and I can zero a scope without thinking about it, does not mean others can. We all started somewhere.

Did you fall out the womb being able to weld? Of course you didn't.
Knowing Tim he was already welding and deriding others for not being able to do it, moments after conception.
 
Hi,

When zeroing mine I use the good old faithful SD Zero Target and a good set of rests.

The one inch grid makes adjustments really easy. start at 25yard, remembering 4mins/inch. get it roughly on (foresight then 2-3 shots) move back to 100 and its 2 shots there so 4-5 shots at most
 
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At the risk of teaching you to suck eggs, and this isn't meant to sound rude but if you need tips for something like zeroing, have you mounted the scope square to begin with?

Spirit level on the rifle, then the scope or using a plumb line to ensure the crosshairs are true?

If I have a gun rest or a bipod then I prop the rear, bore sight it, check the scope, adjust as required, fire, adjust as required by the measurement marks on the target, fire again.

You'll be on within 3 shots, use the rest of the box to instill confidence in your zero and for fun.
 
strange nobody mentioned checking the vertical alignment and tracking . ie shots high and right above the aim point and low and left below the aim point through the trajectory curve.
Also shooting the box , how many miss those out just because you just shot a little biddy group centre v bull, does not mean the gun is correctly set up !
This matters if you hold off or dial! A simplified way to do a quick check is use a plumb bob to scribe a line vertical with a sprit level and shoot one shot as high as you can pointing at the v bull and one low shooting on the v Bull, Are those two splitting the line or do they cross over ?
One minute of angle is approx. one inch near enough at just 100 yards and that matters
setting a zero in theory is one shot, checking it takes a good few more
 
strange nobody mentioned checking the vertical alignment and tracking . ie shots high and right above the aim point and low and left below the aim point through the trajectory curve.
Also shooting the box , how many miss those out just because you just shot a little biddy group centre v bull, does not mean the gun is correctly set up !
This matters if you hold off or dial! A simplified way to do a quick check is use a plumb bob to scribe a line vertical with a sprit level and shoot one shot as high as you can pointing at the v bull and one low shooting on the v Bull, Are those two splitting the line or do they cross over ?
One minute of angle is approx. one inch near enough at just 100 yards and that matters
setting a zero in theory is one shot, checking it takes a good few more

Your last sentence , says it all . Zero should be the " mean point of impact " , if the ammo shoots an at best 1 1/2moa the zero could be 3/4 moa out , or leave as is , I've zero to give !
 
Your last sentence , says it all . Zero should be the " mean point of impact " , if the ammo shoots an at best 1 1/2moa the zero could be 3/4 moa out , or leave as is , I've zero to give !
well , it wasnt exactly the point i was making. The zero would technically still be the centre of where those lines cross to make a single point . We assume the dispersion is constant , otherwise it would literally be a "hit and miss" process.
 
I use a cheap laser boresight just to get the shots 'on paper', then take if from there. Using a target with guidelines that corresponds to clicks on the scope can help from this point on.
 
well , it wasnt exactly the point i was making. The zero would technically still be the centre of where those lines cross to make a single point . We assume the dispersion is constant , otherwise it would literally be a "hit and miss" process.

I think we're on the same page . You need more than one shot to ascertain a zero and confirm it . 1st shot through the bull , next shots covering 1 moa off doesn't make the zero the bull because that isn't the "mean point of impact". As you pointed out we assume dispersion is comstant .
 
Sheet of wall paper dot bore scope it in the middle then shoot one shot at dot and you see your bullet its say low and right or what ever! . So holding your aim onto the dot you then click down and right to bullet hole can be seen in the cross of your scope your scope its now corrected to your first impact then take one more shot and fine tune if needed.
you have now zeroed in Three rounds ?.
If you wish just pop out the primer this way you have less of your barrel to see down and use this as your bore scope .
seen some twiddling guys get in a real state in my time trying to pull there barrel alinement to the scope then wonder why they have nothing left once they are done when they need more adjustment lol. Always take your correctly aligned and fitted scope to the hole or risk less travel in your scope.
 
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