Foxyboy43
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Never ceases to amaze me how foxes just keep coming - thank god! They really are fantastic animals and worthy of our respect - bring ‘em on!
Out last night.
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Smellydog
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I often wonder just what is the population FB?Never ceases to amaze me how foxes just keep coming - thank god! They really are fantastic animals and worthy of our respect - bring ‘em on!
Foxyboy43
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Yep me too - I really think estimated populations are nowhere near reality.
As an example one of my primary fox grounds is a perhaps seven by two miles long arable peninsula (sea on three sides) with a fairly narrow land link to the mainland (and a road causeway) so one could assume that it is a fairly good contained “sample area” - especially if foxes are as territorial as we believe. It has a very few rabbits and only a small number of hares on it and I only started to shoot it two years ago. In two nights I shot five in one field; since then I have shot a further seven in that area which probably covers no more than a mile square and a further five two miles away on the same peninsula and yet they just keep coming!
Sooo unless there is a Vulpes express bus/boat service from the mainland there must be/have been one hell of a fox population which at best I am probably only holding in check?
Someone will know more about these incredible creatures and hopefully can detail on here.
Smellydog
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They soon become an obsession!Yep me too - I really think estimated populations are nowhere near reality.
As an example one of my primary fox grounds is a perhaps seven by two miles long arable peninsula (sea on three sides) with a fairly narrow land link to the mainland (and a road causeway) so one could assume that it is a fairly good contained “sample area” - especially if foxes are as territorial as we believe. It has a very few rabbits and only a small number of hares on it and I only started to shoot it two years ago. In two nights I shot five in one field; since then I have shot a further seven in that area which probably covers no more than a mile square and a further five two miles away on the same peninsula and yet they just keep coming!
Sooo unless there is a Vulpes express bus/boat service from the mainland there must be/have been one hell of a fox population which at best I am probably only holding in check?
Someone will know more about these incredible creatures and hopefully can detail on here.
Just got through loading a batch of fifty new Norma 25-06 this morning, Having recently missed two separate fox one after the other, broke down two rounds to check powder charges & they were bang on weight ... conclusion, sub zero temps may have dropped the speed significantly, maybe even as much as 300 fps?, due to check zero back on the farm when weather not so foul.
Smellydog
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Or the zero is just off...? Does happen
Hmmmn, zero just off … never been knocked guaranteed, mod always wound on tight, only one breed of ammunition available to hand, will know next drier higher temp day.
Ciganka762
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This really caught my eye as it seems like a hellish drop-off for the range of temps we experience in the UK.
I had a cursory look online and found these (not suggesting they are fact - just found it interesting)
An Official Journal Of The NRA | How Much Does Temperature Effect Bullet Impact?
"temperature has a minimal effect on bullet drop at reasonable hunting distances."
The Effects Of Temperature and Altitude In Long Range Shooting
In this article, we explore the effects of temperature and altitude on compensation for bullet drop in long range shooting. We present the science and mechanisms behind the various effects and behavors as well as some "rule of thumb" tricks that can be learned for quick compensation in the field.
www.gunwerks.com
"All things being equal, bullets will drop more at lower temperatures, but the difference is negligible. "
Are you able to chrono in the field (eg using a magnetospeed)? It would be interesting to hear what the cause of this turns out to be.
Not been out yet, but only remaining cause would be an electrical fault / reticle shift with the T Ceptor, No worries on where the two rounds went as a massive backstop of rising ground, with full target representation in the scope.
As to temperatures, I had minus six showing on the dashboard.
As to temperatures, I had minus six showing on the dashboard.
Smellydog
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Mate, I've shot on the hill at -18 and at many many other temperature changes with many many calibre rifles and only ever been around 1" of difference.
Some of my rifles , in fact most of them would need a seasonal rezero of around an inch of shift but that's all.
I did though recently bin a NV unit for not holding zero!!
Do test and test again buddy
Smelly, An inch miss is an inch missMate, I've shot on the hill at -18 and at many many other temperature changes with many many calibre rifles and only ever been around 1" of difference.
Some of my rifles , in fact most of them would need a seasonal rezero of around an inch of shift but that's all.
I did though recently bin a NV unit for not holding zero!!
Do test and test again buddy
Smellydog
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Sure.Smelly, An inch miss is an inch miss
Just had a look in the diary, temp on the farm when zeroing was 22 degrees, still nagging in the back of my mind that's what has affected things, ammuniton had been in the motor for an hour before loading up, I usually have my ready use ammunition in my pocket .. minus 6 to plus 22 degrees is a reasonable change on a 300 yarder.
Still snorkelling here, so will be a couple of days before it's resolved.
Still snorkelling here, so will be a couple of days before it's resolved.
kenbro
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Went to the farm at 18.15 yesterday in persisting rain ( for a change!) and checked over the fence with the old thermal and there was Charlie a good 100 yds away sitting upright.
Back to car and got the rifle, back to fence and still there…..rested on fence and fox moved as I fired.
Don‘t know how shot hit the vixen where it did. Put some bait out then set my brolly and chair up and sat until 20.30 and saw nothing and left.
Much prefer not having to show any lights in the field, not least because I’m working very close to public roads and properties.
Ken.
Back to car and got the rifle, back to fence and still there…..rested on fence and fox moved as I fired.
Don‘t know how shot hit the vixen where it did. Put some bait out then set my brolly and chair up and sat until 20.30 and saw nothing and left.
Much prefer not having to show any lights in the field, not least because I’m working very close to public roads and properties.
Ken.
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