Ineos Grenadier - I have finally had a good look at one.

That daft gearbox choice makes only the LHD the one to be using which will be the main market. There will also be a market for a lighter GRP single tailgate door that lifts up on gas rams I would think.
 
They need to do a ‘metal’ or vinyl or plastic liner interior offering for the rear, and a pull-up/other removable separator so you can use it like a pickup with a cab for hygiene, washing out, etc, but also revert to a family car
 
Regarding the comments, fitting a spare tire under the vehicle is out of the question if Grenadier is marketed / meant for off-road. Also the outer vs. inner dimensions debate might have something to do with suspension travel and ability to fit larger tires. And you just cannot compare live axles to independent suspension (and no suspension travel) in today's SUVs.

Vague steering in new vehicle does sound scary. Then again I don't know what was the comparison. But I wouldn't class e.g. G Wagen as "vague" and it's a 40+ year old design. Something 30y old like Jeep ZJ is actually very good when everything is tidy.
I've travelled in a customers Grenadier, my only negative comment would be that the steering reminded me of my old 2a lwb landrover, it didn't feel dangerous at speed to me. They have obviously got the emissions right so expect to see a few as 'Chelsea tractors'.
 
My mate ordered a new Defender in February 2022 and collected it in November 2022. To date at just over a year old and 13K miles he has had no problems at all, 100% reliable.
I have driven it quite a bit and must say it is a very nice comfortable drive.
I have also driven one at the Land Rover off road Experience and was amazed at what it could do on standard road tyres.
I have also driven a lot of miles in Range Rovers and felt that the Defender was just as good on the road and probably better off road.
I would add that I am not a great LR fan and thought the old Defender was the worst vehicle ever made ,well apart from the Austin Allegro, but the new one which is obviously totally different seems to tick all the boxes.
 
I wish it was built in England, but can see the commercial logic for not doing that given the option to buy a factory.

I hope it does well, remember when the mini pickup, subrua pickup challenged the Land Rover for the farmers market. The market has changed and the double cab pickup has taken a huge share, will that be permanent?
 
I wish it was built in England, but can see the commercial logic for not doing that given the option to buy a factory.

I hope it does well, remember when the mini pickup, subrua pickup challenged the Land Rover for the farmers market. The market has changed and the double cab pickup has taken a huge share, will that be permanent?
JLR Nitra was an unknown site in Slovakia but as they, the Slovaks have had so many assembly plants built in the country going back more than twenty years that the experience of auto building is growing year by year just as the UKs is falling in the other direction, sadly.
 
A mate was invited on a driving afternoon the other week, he has Defender written through his middle. He loved the car, said the off-road tracks were completed with absolute ease and on road the car was quick (I guess comparing it to his end of production Defender) He has had a deposit down from the very beginning but still hasn't pressed the button. They have apparently sorted the commercial problem but he is likely to go for the pick up version. I've sat in one but not driven one, it wasn't for me but neither was the old Defender, nor the new one. If it does take off I can see a lot of Defender owners hammered on the sky high residuals they are enjoying at present.
 
I really liked it when I eventually saw it.
I was an early interested customer and couldn’t wait to get to grips with one
Then they finally drove the price up to that of about 2 pickups.

When they called to see when I was coming in to test one the guy actually had no answer to that point.

Hilux it is then.
 
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