Reloading and ammo quantity question

[grandad of the woods]

Ok not seen another question like this yet but it go me thinking .

So if I'm allowed 500 rounds of .243 when reloading at what point dose it becomes a full round ( I know this sounds stupid ) so I'm assuming ones a bullet is seated it would turn be considered a full round and go towards my 500 round limit dose that means I can part compete rounds say have the primers in and even the powder say as long as I don't seat the bullet I'm good ? I know it's a stupid question I'm just coming into the idea orlf reloading for the hobby of doing it

 

[Apthorpe]

Yes. Your understanding is correct.
It might be worth thinking about keeping the primers and primed cases reasonably secure.

 

[Liveonce]

powder is best stored in its container, as whilst very unlikely to happen it’s burn rate can change if it’s moisture content changes. I prepare my cases and store them primed ready to add primer and bullet.

 

[Dickie]

powder is best stored in its container, as whilst very unlikely to happen it’s burn rate can change if it’s moisture content changes. I prepare my cases and store them primed ready to add primer and bullet.

That doesn't make sense.

 

[kenbro]

That doesn't make sense.

If you read it as Powder & bullet it does.
Kb.

 

[One on top of two]

As soon as you put a primer in the empty case its classed as a live round .

 

[markyw]

That doesn't make sense.

Powder is hygroscopic, which means it absorbs moisture from the air. This in turn degrades its performance, which is why you shouldn't leave powder in open containers for any length of time.

Edit: Doh! I had corrected the original sentence in my head as I read it. I see what does not make sense now

Mark

 

[Stalker62]

As soon as you put a primer in the empty case its classed as a live round .

Bollocks.

 

[One on top of two]

Bollocks.

Well it is according my firearms dept , so take it up with them you rude **** !

 

[Stalker62]

Well it is according my firearms dept , so take it up with them you rude **** !

Relax old fruit.

You posted this nonsense, and calling me 'names' does not make it right.

It is nothing personal; but what you posted (according to your firearms dept. {sic}) is bollocks.

 

[bluesako]

bad bad idea

 

[One on top of two]

Relax old fruit.

You posted this nonsense.

It is nothing personal; but it is bollocks.

Well my county takes a differnt veiw and i really dont care enough to argue the toss .

 

[sh1kar]

Bollocks.

HMM see definition of Ammunition, Blank and Cartridge. I think even without a projectile the implication is it is a live round?

https://library.college.police.uk/docs/appref/Gun_crime_Glossary_of_Firearm_terms_final.pdf

 

[SpikeD]

Well it is according my firearms dept , so take it up with them you rude **** !

Both you and your firearms department need to read all of the various acts but to make life easy look at the guidance. Repeating factually incorrect statements are unhelpful. See below.

Yes there was a legal case where an individual was prosecuted for having primed cases in his possession along with a pistol in a public place without lawful excuse/reason this was misinterpreted by many but did not change the law.

to the original question, the more pertinent question in terms of storage you need to make yourself aware of the HSE legislation on the storage limits of powders. primers and ammunition as it's quite complex and if you have a variety of powders to test it doesn't take much to get to the 10kg limit.

Storing explosives - HSE

Storing explosives

www.hse.gov.uk

Guide on firearms licensing law (accessible version)

www.gov.uk

Definition of ‘ammunition’​

2.11 ‘Ammunition’ means ammunition for any firearm and includes grenades, bombs and other like missiles, whether capable of use with a firearm or not; and also includes prohibited ammunition. It should be noted that the definition of ammunition does not include ingredients and components of ammunition; it is only assembled ammunition that is controlled under the Act, not component parts. Empty cartridge cases, for example, are not ‘ammunition’. There are two exceptions to this. The first is missiles for ammunition prohibited under section 5 of the 1968 Act, for example, expanding ammunition which can only be used in a pistol, or armour-piercing bullets. Such missiles are themselves defined as ‘ammunition’ and are subject to control accordingly (see Chapter 3). The second is primers - section 35 of the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006 introduced controls on the purchase and sale of a cap type primer designed for use in metallic ammunition (see Chapter 5).

 

[SpikeD]

HMM see definition of Ammunition, Blank and Cartridge. I think even without a projectile the implication is it is a live round?

https://library.college.police.uk/docs/appref/Gun_crime_Glossary_of_Firearm_terms_final.pdf

That's from NABIS who have quite cleverly distorted the definition of intelligence... sarcasm aside that document has no legal status.

 

[Stalker62]

I think even without a projectile the implication is it is a live round?

No.

 

[doigan]

As soon as you put a primer in the empty case its classed as a live round .

This too is my understanding even though the case is empty they still count towards your allocation. I never have more than a hundred cases prepped at any time.

 

[Jagged77]

Irrespective of the legalities I think it’s best practice to keep all reloading components safely stored in their original packaging until ready for use, rather than part assembling. This will mitigate mix ups and mistakes, allow for accurate identification and also keep components like primers free from potential contaminants.

 

[Dalua]

Irrespective of the legalities I think it’s best practice to keep all reloading components safely stored in their original packaging until ready for use, rather than part assembling. This will mitigate mix ups and mistakes, allow for accurate identification and also keep components like primers free from potential contaminants.

Curiously, I feel that primers fitted into empty cases are far less likely to misbehave than those in their original packets.
That aside, as someone who likes to keep reloading simple I find the fewer steps I have to do per session the better - so I do keep clean, sized, trimmed, primed, ready-to-load cases on hand in sealed bags duly labelled with the relevant info.
It works for me, anyway.

Perhaps I should add that I also do not believe that a primed case counts in law as a round of ammuntion.

 

[cjm1066]

...."only assembled ammunition" the law is clear, it's just a pity the colleague of policing don't read/understand it - some college!!!