Reloading and ammo quantity question

How many deer have you shot using primed cases, asking for a friend.
:) None I hit them over the head with the stock. :)
Seriously my comment is only based on a conversation with a fellow shooter but certainly not intended as factual. May come from the time when expanding bullets were considered "ammunition" so buying bullets counted towards your allocation. Now this never affected me as a target shooter , but this was my old FAO who had been doing the job for a very long time who advised me.
 
Another example of a unhelpful and uniformed post, this is just a picture from the NABIS document, so for the second time of writing that is not a legal document just an ill informed opinion.

The 1968 act and it's subsequent acts / updates define ammunition in law. I posted the definition from the last guidance document. For those still willing to engage in mental gymnastics consider the following from the Firearms act

Firearms and ammunition for which a certificate is required
5.11 Any person wishing to possess, purchase or acquire any firearm or ammunition must hold a valid firearm or shot gun certificate (as appropriate) unless exempt under sections 7 to 13, 15, 54 or 58(1) of the 1968 Act or sections 15 to 19 of the 1988 Act, except:
a) an air weapon or a weapon powered by compressed carbon dioxide (not of a type declared by the Secretary of State under the Dangerous Air Weapons Rules 1969 (as amended) to be specially dangerous);
b) ammunition for air weapons;
c) cartridges containing five or more shot, none of which exceeds .36 inches in diameter (the exemption does not extend to the purchase of such ammunition);
d) blank cartridges not more than one inch in diameter

So if blanks (case, primer & powder) are legally defined as not requiring a firearm certificate i.e. are not ammunition please talk us through how a primed .308" case is ammunition but a .308" blank isn't.
 
Another example of a unhelpful and uniformed post, this is just a picture from the NABIS document, so for the second time of writing that is not a legal document just an ill informed opinion.

The 1968 act and it's subsequent acts / updates define ammunition in law. I posted the definition from the last guidance document. For those still willing to engage in mental gymnastics consider the following from the Firearms act

Firearms and ammunition for which a certificate is required
5.11 Any person wishing to possess, purchase or acquire any firearm or ammunition must hold a valid firearm or shot gun certificate (as appropriate) unless exempt under sections 7 to 13, 15, 54 or 58(1) of the 1968 Act or sections 15 to 19 of the 1988 Act, except:
a) an air weapon or a weapon powered by compressed carbon dioxide (not of a type declared by the Secretary of State under the Dangerous Air Weapons Rules 1969 (as amended) to be specially dangerous);
b) ammunition for air weapons;
c) cartridges containing five or more shot, none of which exceeds .36 inches in diameter (the exemption does not extend to the purchase of such ammunition);
d) blank cartridges not more than one inch in diameter

So if blanks (case, primer & powder) are legally defined as not requiring a firearm certificate i.e. are not ammunition please talk us through how a primed .308" case is ammunition but a .308" blank isn't.
Why dont you give them a bell , maybe drop them a few lines and tell them where and what there doing wrong . Im sure ther be over the moon too hear from you.
Its all well and good you getting all hot and sweaty over it but some of us rightly or wrongly are just doing what we have been asked to do by our licensing deptments .
Like i have already said , i really dont care enough to worry about it sorry . But you crack on buddy 👍
 
Another example of a unhelpful and uniformed post, this is just a picture from the NABIS document, so for the second time of writing that is not a legal document just an ill informed opinion.

The 1968 act and it's subsequent acts / updates define ammunition in law. I posted the definition from the last guidance document. For those still willing to engage in mental gymnastics consider the following from the Firearms act

Firearms and ammunition for which a certificate is required
5.11 Any person wishing to possess, purchase or acquire any firearm or ammunition must hold a valid firearm or shot gun certificate (as appropriate) unless exempt under sections 7 to 13, 15, 54 or 58(1) of the 1968 Act or sections 15 to 19 of the 1988 Act, except:
a) an air weapon or a weapon powered by compressed carbon dioxide (not of a type declared by the Secretary of State under the Dangerous Air Weapons Rules 1969 (as amended) to be specially dangerous);
b) ammunition for air weapons;
c) cartridges containing five or more shot, none of which exceeds .36 inches in diameter (the exemption does not extend to the purchase of such ammunition);
d) blank cartridges not more than one inch in diameter

So if blanks (case, primer & powder) are legally defined as not requiring a firearm certificate i.e. are not ammunition please talk us through how a primed .308" case is ammunition but a .308" blank isn't.
Precisely, only a complete fireable round comprising of case, primer, propellent and projectile counts as ammunition, incomplete rounds are merely components. I'm quite amazed how some gullible shooters are content to be bullied by incompetent FLDs.
 
But did he count them towards your ammunition limits? Ammunition safe I take not gun safe.
No it didn’t go towards my allocation of ammunition limits.

He just was pleased I was storing them safely in the ammunition locker.

He was happy with it , so why start giving him reasons to grumble.
 
No it didn’t go towards my allocation of ammunition limits.

He just was pleased I was storing them safely in the ammunition locker.

He was happy with it , so why start giving him reasons to grumble.
I totally agree with in the locker clean and tidy but the question was about them counting to your ammunition allowance and your reply implied they were and you were ok with it.
 
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