Supplying to restaurants

[Redleg]

So the senaro is,
Someone I know runs a hotel & restaurant. The owner knows I do a bit of stalking and asked if we could supply his restaurant on an occasional basis.
I said yes and as a good will gesture offered a small fallow carcasses FOC to the chief thinking it might lead to a regular supply.
2 months later despite nurmours emails to the chief I've heard nothing not even any feedback from the first carcasses I supplied.
Now I see the restaurants new menu has venison and Pheasant (which I also can supply) advertised.
Do I contact the owner and ask why when I supplied a FOC carcass I haven't even had feedback or Chalk it up to experience and move on?

 

[Stalker62]

You have head nothing?






There's your feedback.


Perhaps ask them how they 'enjoyed' the venison?

 

[Redleg]

You have head nothing?


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There's your feedback.


Perhaps ask them how they 'enjoyed' the venison?

I did email them and telephoned the chief but no reply.

 

[SikaSeeker]

You can’t depend on anyone in this world apart from yourself, people will suit themselves first.

 

[Stalker62]

I did email them and telephoned the chief but no reply.

In that case...

Chalk it up, and crack on.

 

[5MM/.20Man]

The chief may well have lost his job .

I was going to supply a butcher with rabbit. However , meat needs to be registered and have its own number . So it can be traced .
A game dealer maybe able take venison rabbit , Pheasant etc , If its going to be given to the public . It has to be able to be traced . Health and safety , Enviromental health find out , why something cant be traced you are fcuked .
Neither of us wanted to get in Doo Doo, i mean serious shyte So it didnt happen .

 

[Tazz]

So the senaro is,
Someone I know runs a hotel & restaurant. The owner knows I do a bit of stalking and asked if we could supply his restaurant on an occasional basis.
I said yes and as a good will gesture offered a small fallow carcasses FOC to the chief thinking it might lead to a regular supply.
2 months later despite nurmours emails to the chief I've heard nothing not even any feedback from the first carcasses I supplied.
Now I see the restaurants new menu has venison and Pheasant (which I also can supply) advertised.
Do I contact the owner and ask why when I supplied a FOC carcass I haven't even had feedback or Chalk it up to experience and move on?

Lots of potential reasons why no feedback but none of them will be good news, they clearly have another source, consider it an opportunity but it never came to anything, like stalking, great potential deer but no backstop

 

[The Singing Stalker]

I find lots of people will happily take free. Come to paying though……..
Also, was it legal for him to take a carcass? He would need a separate butchery area.

 

[Mike L]

Are you a registered food business, was the carcass tagged?

 

[Redleg]

Are you a registered food business, was the carcass tagged?

Yes, registered and tagged.

 

[sauer]

Normally as well under hunters exemption you can only supply 25% of your sales to a middleman so to speak … 75% has to go to the end user

Paul

 

[Mike L]

Yes, registered and tagged.

Then I would guess a change of chef was the cause, I lost one of my restaurants without word like this.

 

[Overlay]

I did email them and telephoned the chief but no reply.

Face to face sells produce, have a think about how would like to be sold anything, pop in for a meal and ask how it went, you never know . Chef may just get a bit in for the freezer from his main supplier for easy options

 

[Pete6.5]

Did you just supply a whole carcass skinned? They might be buying it as cuts because it's far easier.

 

[NoIDeer]

Contact the person you know, sounds like he/she started the conversation? Sounds like your initial supply gave the "chief" a good idea and another job at the same time.

 

[Redleg]

Normally as well under hunters exemption you can only supply 25% of your sales to a middleman so to speak … 75% has to go to the end user

Paul

I would say a restaurant is an end user.
Not like selling to a butcher who would then sell it onto the final consumer.

 

[willie_gunn]

I would say a restaurant is an end user.
Not like selling to a butcher who would then sell it onto the final consumer.

Wild Game Guidance classifies butchers and restaurants as the same, since both are retailers who directly supply to the end user - see https://www.food.gov.uk/sites/default/files/media/document/Wild Game Guidance .pdf

 

[willie_gunn]

Did you just supply a whole carcass skinned? They might be buying it as cuts because it's far easier.

It is perhaps worth pointing out that if a stalker supplies the carcass skinned then they are providing “wild game meat”, rather than “wild game”, and different rules therefore apply.

Any preparation (e.g. evisceration, skinning and/or plucking) changes it from wild game to wild game meat.

 

[sauer]

I would say a restaurant is an end user.
Not like selling to a butcher who would then sell it onto the final consumer.

As already put forward restaurant is the middleman providing the product to the end user / person who eats it

That was explained to me by EHO as how they interpret it …. Governed by them therefore that’s how I approach it

Paul

 

[75]

Normally as well under hunters exemption you can only supply 25% of your sales to a middleman so to speak … 75% has to go to the end user

Paul

Where is this stated please? I have no recollection of it being stated in Wild Game guide and can’t immediately find any reference to it online?