What to do with the carcasses?

[Chris Richardson]

I have to be honest ... this is absolutely crap.....and those who were kindly invited should be ashamed of themselves.

There are lots of comments about "effort" ...lets be honest taking the shot is the easy bit its what comes before and after that takes the skill and the time. I adore the entire process of deer stalking (and all forms of shooting really)...maybe extraction isnt one I adore....you are always learning and every situation is different.

I have very few deer local to me and jump at any opportunity my friends are kind enough to offer....alas this tends to be 4+ hour away ...but that increases the enjoyment/excitement/anticipation. I still get a massive buzz just seeing deer...long may that continue

i agree i should add the two who showed up are lads who regularly help me out so obviously theyre always welcome , if youre ever near yorkshire message me

 

[Mike1979]

i agree i should add the two who showed up are lads who regularly help me out so obviously theyre always welcome , if youre ever near yorkshire message me

Thanks mate, that's a really kind offer

 

[8x57]

Could be confussing having chinese water deer and chronic wasting disease having the same initials

It certainly caught me out. My mindset was still on alien deer species. So it was only one thing that I learnt on Sunday not two afterall.

 

[Bowland blades]

Its still OK to give friends and family the meat , if you are going to kill large deer every weekend say ? Your going to need a more friends though - Then that's when you need to be making trips to the game dealer and declaring the income .

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

I've recently had to take my large game meat hygeine to sort this exact issue. I don't want a thing like freezer space slowing down my stalking.

Having recently passed, I can now use the local game dealer.

Before then I was literally giving it away. Friends, family, neighbours. Before Christmas I was giving fallow away to my mother in laws neighbours

That was my situation too. Got the cert but my local game dealer is an hour and half away. Fuel costs make it hardly worth it

 

[Jh1986]

That was my situation too. Got the cert but my local game dealer is an hour and half away. Fuel costs make it hardly worth it

Are there any communal chillers closer? I have a communal chiller 23 minutes away, and they have regular collections from the dealer

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

Are there any communal chillers closer? I have a communal chiller 23 minutes away, and they have regular collections from the dealer

No not as far as I'm aware. I shoot with a guy who has a cold room so can store carcasses there but doesn't solve the issue really with fuel costs. I just swallow it and hopefully recoup a little back as I need to shoot the numbers.

There are feelers out for a communal cold room/pick up point at the moment within our deer groups but funding and assessing risk of lads taking the pish or not are our biggest obstacles.

 

[Ratel]

And in order to preserve the fortunate situation in which we find ourselves we need to acknowledge that risk and ensure that we do our utmost to mitigate it through responsible carcass preparation, and be able to demonstrate due diligence by undertaking proper training. Provided that we do this voluntarily then we will hopefully avoid having it foisted upon us.

This morning I called into my local Lady butcher to give her a hand. She invited me to go into her chiller and thinking perhaps my luck was in I got quite excited. Unfortunately she just wanted me to look at a carcase which had been brought in by a local landowner for butchery.
Her late father had shown me some from the same place a while ago which had been shot more than once and even still had bullets in the carcases of some. Now this landowner has a large resident Fallow population and I was amazed that this one had been brought in as the only retrievable meat was part of the loins and the haunches. I would have buried the rest. We always talk about good preparation of beasts for human consumption but these stalkers that shoot there really have to up their game as I was quite appalled by the skinned carcase.

 

[Mike1979]

This morning I called into my local Lady butcher to give her a hand. She invited me to go into her chiller and thinking perhaps my luck was in I got quite excited. Unfortunately she just wanted me to look at a carcase which had been brought in by a local landowner for butchery.
Her late father had shown me some from the same place a while ago which had been shot more than once and even still had bullets in the carcases of some. Now this landowner has a large resident Fallow population and I was amazed that this one had been brought in as the only retrievable meat was part of the loins and the haunches. I would have buried the rest. We always talk about good preparation of beasts for human consumption but these stalkers that shoot there really have to up their game as I was quite appalled by the skinned carcase.

The game dealers/butchers should not be accepting them but I totally agree that carcass prep should be better and to an agreed standard based on what that game dealer wants.

MC Kelly in Crediton issue a 3 page doc with clear guidelines which is nice and easy to follow. Since they require non toxic as long as there is no saddle or haunch damage there are no deductions for front end damage.

 

[Ratel]

The game dealers/butchers should not be accepting them but I totally agree that carcass prep should be better and to an agreed standard based on what that game dealer wants.

MC Kelly in Crediton issue a 3 page doc with clear guidelines which is nice and easy to follow. Since they require non toxic as long as there is no saddle or haunch damage there are no deductions for front end damage.

That's good but my butcher wouldn't accept this carcase from me, indeed I wouldn't have taken it in. However it was only there to be butchered by the landowner.

 

[Mike1979]

That's good but my butcher wouldn't accept this carcase from me, indeed I wouldn't have taken it in. However it was only there to be butchered by the landowner.

Got you

Im with you as well in that I wont take poorly shot carcasses to my local butcher....if I am in any way unhappy I will butcher them myself and that way I keep them happy. And when I say poorly shot I really mean excessive damage on the front shoulders which is probably far from being badly shot.

 

[25 Sharps]

HMRC give a £1000 per annum allowance. Called a trading allowance which isn’t taxable and doesn’t need to be declared. Keep it under £1,000 and you are good.

Make sure you have the hunters number if you supply to a game dealer.

Also need to be a registered food business.

 

[Hunters moon]

Hello all, I’m after some advice if possible.

It’s been a few years since I’ve been stalking and when I did go, it was always accompanied. Now I’ve got the opportunity to stalk on my in-laws farm as they’ve got some reds causing damage to their crops.

My issue now is what to do with the carcasses, as once I’ve shot one or two my chest freezer will be full and I can’t see me eating enough of it to empty it very quickly.

My other thought was to take it to a game dealer, I spoke to a local one who would be happy for me to supply to them as long as I have a DSC1, which I do. But if I take it to a game dealer would I have to register as self employed and declare the income? I imagine I’ll be shooting fairly modest numbers so seems like it could be more hassle than it’s worth.

What’s other people’s experience in a similar position to me? Am I better off trying to give them away to family or friends or, would it be simpler to just register as self employed and drop th carcasses off at the game dealer?

Thanks.

Tom.

I recently passed DSC1, I have a candidate number on my DSC1 and on the Lantra it has 4 different numbers on that so I am not sure either?
I have been told that you use your trained hunter number or your Lantra certificate number as that is traceable say the British deer society.

 

[Kalahari]

DSC1 after April 2021 doesn't include Large Game qualification I think. Might affect if your candidate number counts.

David.

 

[bogtrotter]

0HMRC give a £1000 per annum allowance. Called a trading allowance which isn’t taxable and doesn’t need to be declared. Keep it under £1,000 and you are good.

Make sure you have the hunters number if you supply to a game dealer.

Was going to mention the £1000 allowance but as usual I'm at the dogs tail.

 

[W1LL]

I recently passed DSC1, I have a candidate number on my DSC1 and on the Lantra it has 4 different numbers on that so I am not sure either?
I have been told that you use your trained hunter number or your Lantra certificate number as that is traceable say the British deer society.

On the BASC/DMQ card the Lantra Certificate number is used as the Trained Hunter number

 

[wytonpjs]

As other rightly say, holders of blue DSC1 certificates include large game handling; if you are one of those, you use yourDMQ number. Similar if you have done DSC2. If you have done a recent DSC1 without the LGH qualification but have done the NGO (or other approved course), you must use the number on that certificate on your carcass tags.