Henry Single Shot vs CVA Scout

[Rafter]

Did Henry provide you with the trigger upgrade parts? Or are they aftermarket parts to improve the trigger? Do you know what the pull weight is after you upgraded it?

Henry supplied the parts. They would have done the swap, but are at the other end of the island and I wanted it done rfn so they sent them to me.
I don't have a trigger pull gauge, but I'll rig up one with a 2l milk bottle and see.

 

[kenbro]

Hi,
I’ve had a B13 x 308 and recently sold my B13 x 223.
I now just have a B13 x 222 cal. and I’ll be keeping that as it’s an accurate and good for the foxing (Mainly short range) I do.
While I still had all 3 calibres I tried interchanging the barrels even though Bergara told me they weren’t interchangeable. (Believe CVA scouts were advertised as interchangeable at some time?)
Anyway, my 3 barrels would fit in different actions and lock up nice and tight….however, the hammer would not cock and stay back on any of them.
Bergara told me they had NO plans to make them to interchange.
Did think (American member probably familiar here. Eagle View?) that someone might make a stub kit for B13s.
Ken.

 

[KimE]

Speaking of the scope rail, does anyone have any experience with an Ultradot? The one I have is a 30mm tube with a 4 MOA dot. I’ve never used one. Mounted on either a CVA Scout or Henry Single Shot, it would be used for less than 100 yard ground blind hunting and target shooting. Is a small sized scope a better choice? I do not want a large bulkier scope on either of these single shots. I admit to having no experience with red dot-type sights and the vast majority of my experience is with scopes. I realize that I should just go out and try it but I’m interested in what the forum’s experience/opinion of using this Ultradot on these rifles.
Thanks.

On my bergara ba13 300blk I have a light 3-9*33 scope, the trigger are nice, I tightened up the alu base scews and havn`t had problems with it but its a light scope and low recoil.

On my 12g/222rem Tikkakoski m69 I have a 5 moa red dot sight it works great for close shots up to 80m, I shot a beaver at 100m the red-dead zone of the dot covered the whole lung-neck area It died quickly.

 

[cf2fan]

It may or may not be of interest, but after being relatively determined on having a CVA Scout for the limited firearms deer season, I ended up purchasing a Savage Axis XP package in Cabela's today.

I always had a hankering for a BA-13 in the UK, but my main driver for the Scout was cost. Our firearms season is incredibly short, with only a few tags available for both archery and gun. So, I didn't want to spend too much on something that would sit dormant for most of the year. If I shoot out of state, I'll likely take my trusty .308.

I'm not sure what's steering you towards a single shot, but if it's cost, the Savage Axis XP with a cheap, but seemingly serviceable Weaver scope and mounts for $300 was hard to ignore.

I have a scope I brought with me from the UK waiting for it if ever needed, but I'll run it with the Weaver first and see how it fairs. The rifle comes with the scope mounted and boresighted already.

While cost is always a factor, I always had a hankering for a single shot. The Scout and Henry are the only two that are affordable for me. The Savage Axis XP package is a very easy on the wallet but a single shot has piqued my interest. I just can’t justify the cost of a Ruger, Merkel or Blaser. You are right about the Axis, though. Thanks for your suggestion.

 

[cf2fan]

On my bergara ba13 300blk I have a light 3-9*33 scope, the trigger are nice, I tightened up the alu base scews and havn`t had problems with it but its a light scope and low recoil.

On my 12g/222rem Tikkakoski m69 I have a 5 moa red dot sight it works great for close shots up to 80m, I shot a beaver at 100m the red-dead zone of the dot covered the whole lung-neck area It died quickly.

Both of your setups are very nice indeed and are right in line with my thinking of a CVA Scout with a small, light scope.
Your Model 69 may prompt me to look for a Savage Model 24 combo rifle. I appreciate your practical input.

 

[KimE]

It may or may not be of interest, but after being relatively determined on having a CVA Scout for the limited firearms deer season, I ended up purchasing a Savage Axis XP package in Cabela's today.

I always had a hankering for a BA-13 in the UK, but my main driver for the Scout was cost. Our firearms season is incredibly short, with only a few tags available for both archery and gun. So, I didn't want to spend too much on something that would sit dormant for most of the year. If I shoot out of state, I'll likely take my trusty .308.

I'm not sure what's steering you towards a single shot, but if it's cost, the Savage Axis XP with a cheap, but seemingly serviceable Weaver scope and mounts for $300 was hard to ignore.

I have a scope I brought with me from the UK waiting for it if ever needed, but I'll run it with the Weaver first and see how it fairs. The rifle comes with the scope mounted and boresighted already.

The Savage axis are 7950sek/723$ here in Sweden without scope. I choosed the Bergara because its a handy rifle fits both lefthanded are righthanded people, if I need more rounds I use my Tikka T3.

 

[kenbro]

cf2fan,
Have you considered the Thompson break barrel rifles.
I’ve had a few of those (Plenty of after market parts available in US) and like them, but, I prefer the lockup style of the Bergaras.
Ken.

 

[HappyHunter]

While cost is always a factor, I always had a hankering for a single shot. The Scout and Henry are the only two that are affordable for me. The Savage Axis XP package is a very easy on the wallet but a single shot has piqued my interest. I just can’t justify the cost of a Ruger, Merkel or Blaser. You are right about the Axis, though. Thanks for your suggestion.

No problem. Let us know what you do end up with, and happy hunting!

 

[cf2fan]

cf2fan,
Have you considered the Thompson break barrel rifles.
I’ve had a few of those (Plenty of after market parts available in US) and like them, but, I prefer the lockup style of the Bergaras.
Ken.

Ken,
Yes I have but they don’t quite fit me, especially the grip. The ones that I’ve seen at the range shot very well and the owners were quite pleased with them. Your suggestion is appreciated.

 

[cf2fan]

No problem. Let us know what you do end up with, and happy hunting!

I will. A large part of acquiring a new rifle is the researching, comparing, etc. Anyway, at least for me it is. Thanks for your advice.

 

[cf2fan]

After much deliberation, I decided to go with a stainless CVA Scout in .243 Win. I did handle a Henry but liked the fit (and price!) of the Scout better.
Thanks to all the members who took the time to reply. I appreciate your opinions.

 

[jthyttin]

I haven’t used a red dot in many years but I do remember the dot flaring enough to bother me. A small lower power scope is a better fit for me.

While decent LPVO is superior by just about any meter, there are prismatic sights that are red dot form factor and etched reticle. E.g. Vortex Spitfire range.

One caveat, they're usually designed for AR platform, so might be too high to conveniently mount on break barrel.

 

[nun_hunter]

Speaking of the scope rail, does anyone have any experience with an Ultradot? The one I have is a 30mm tube with a 4 MOA dot. I’ve never used one. Mounted on either a CVA Scout or Henry Single Shot, it would be used for less than 100 yard ground blind hunting and target shooting. Is a small sized scope a better choice? I do not want a large bulkier scope on either of these single shots. I admit to having no experience with red dot-type sights and the vast majority of my experience is with scopes. I realize that I should just go out and try it but I’m interested in what the forum’s experience/opinion of using this Ultradot on these rifles.
Thanks.

I initially put a red dot on mine and found it accurate enough, but it didn't give me the confidence on any longer shots. I now have a Delta Titanium 1.5-9X42 with an illuminated centre dot, which covers all options for me nicely.

 

[tarponhead]

I had a Vortex Sparc 2 ( 2MOA dot ) on a Marlin Guide Gun in 45/70 and a Trijicon MRO on a rifled Remington 870 12 gauge . Both worked really well . I liked that I could shoot with both eyes open . I used them for bear in heavy cover and the extra field of view and speed of use really makes a difference . That being said , I also use a fair number of small fixed low power scopes for the same situations . The thing to keep in mind with red dot sights is if you suffer from astigmatism , you will have problems as the dot will blur or star on you . Don't cheap out either , you get what you pay for . The Vortex models are very inexpensive and are great value for the money .

AB

“ I used them for bear In heavy cover…” I can’t imagine how much courage that must take - wouldn’t you want a lightning fast reload, just in case? And a big bullet? Makes deer stalking feel very tame and safe. I’m also looking at handy rifles for close cover in .308, so interested in this thread. But not for bear…

 

[tarponhead]

After much deliberation, I decided to go with a stainless CVA Scout in .243 Win. I did handle a Henry but liked the fit (and price!) of the Scout better.
Thanks to all the members who took the time to reply. I appreciate your opinions.

Thanks for creating such an interesting thread. I hope it works well for you - it will be great to read about your experiences with it, if you are minded to write them up. It’s so onerous to get an additional slot for a new rifle in the UK unless you own land, careful research is critical, so this was very helpful.

 

[alberta boy]

“ I used them for bear In heavy cover…” I can’t imagine how much courage that must take - wouldn’t you want a lightning fast reload, just in case? And a big bullet? Makes deer stalking feel very tame and safe. I’m also looking at handy rifles for close cover in .308, so interested in this thread. But not for bear…

The red dots were mounted on a large bore ( 45/70 ) Marlin lever action and a pump action 12 gauge loaded with 1 1/4 ounce slugs . Both are extremely fast to operate , with multiple shots , and hit like freight trains up close . I used to guide for bear and it just comes with the job . That being said , I've also hunted a lot of game with a single shot in hand , including bear , without any problems . I know a number of people who regularly hunt with muzzle loaders as well , they do very well ........................ hunting coastal Browns with one is a little too spicy for me though lol .

AB

 

[cf2fan]

The red dots were mounted on a large bore ( 45/70 ) Marlin lever action and a pump action 12 gauge loaded with 1 1/4 ounce slugs . Both are extremely fast to operate , with multiple shots , and hit like freight trains up close . I used to guide for bear and it just comes with the job . That being said , I've also hunted a lot of game with a single shot in hand , including bear , without any problems . I know a number of people who regularly hunt with muzzle loaders as well , they do very well ........................ hunting coastal Browns with one is a little too spicy for me though lol .

AB

I can't imagine hunting big coastal Browns with anything less than a 155mm howitzer let alone a muzzleloader! Way too spicy for me! LOL

 

[cf2fan]

Thanks for creating such an interesting thread. I hope it works well for you - it will be great to read about your experiences with it, if you are minded to write them up. It’s so onerous to get an additional slot for a new rifle in the UK unless you own land, careful research is critical, so this was very helpful.

I am glad that you also gained something from this thread, I certainly did. Your reply is very appreciated.