New trees and dead deer.
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At least some will be reinvested.
In glasses, suits, dresses and tickets.
BOOM TISH!
David Barker
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My quick point is why move good quality landlords who are managing the land to furnish a foreign Lego land lord with copious amounts of cash to meet there un meetable echo targets. Why not support the current land owns as i see it most estates are doing a pretty good job of deer management. Only the lowlands need took in order and that will require a different approach.What do you mean by "Scottish People"? I know several Scottish people who are landowners and who would vigorously dispute your point and with solid justification. Do you feel the land should be in the hands of impecunious collectives of crofters and well meaning people from the cities? Is it your view that this would be better for the land?
What would Scotland have become without English and other investment? We should be grateful it was cared for and looked after by people of whatever origin. People who were prepared to spend their money (for little enough return) to preserve the land. The argument is same everywhere. We have enthusiastic clowns across the UK -who have neither a bean to spend on improving the country (as we do from our taxed incomes), nor the grass roots knowledge to understand what the land needs, telling us how to run it. The debate (read hysteria) around Muirburn being a classic example. Most of these "experts" wouldn't know bracken from heather if it was sticking out of their trousers. It is rare enough to see them with mud on their boots. Re-wilding is a fallacy driven by greed. Mark my words...it is only money at the bottom of it. Where money is, there is no love of the land. It is just a factory floor.
A couple of thought provoking articles to consider before getting all dewy eyed about Glenfeshie or other projects:
Carnage in the Countryside COUNTRY SQUIRE MAGAZINE
Blackgame Dewilding COUNTRY SQUIRE MAGAZINE
BY CALUM CAMPBELL On moving back to the Grantown area in 2020, I made it a priority to try and photograph Blackcock the following Spring. I got the chance on a sporting estate near the headwaters o…countrysquire.co.uk
Triggermortis
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Triggermortis
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Maybe not now but the Scottish people did choose to sell the land in the first place, so why go on to whinge about a situation they are responsible for?
David Barker
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Sadly because the uneducated from the central belt think that if we get rid of the English from the estates we will have our lands back and that works for the SNP. But in reality is far from the truth .Same as the oil its owned by companies far from scotland in the main.
Triggermortis
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Scotland is not alone, in the south we’ve sold the hospitals, prisons,dockyards,schools, energy infrastructure , steel foundaries, roads and anything else that is vital to keep the country running.
Freeforester
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Whilst we’re sitting comfortably, Mike Halliday puts a finger on the real discrepancy between deer management and upland ecology, ie the question of sheep numbers (last moments of the video):
Spear Chucker
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Agreed. It would be a bit like running up to your enemy and blowing your brains all over his trousers having yelled "Take this Ye Sassenach *****!" before pulling the trigger.
I wouldn't bother reading the rest of this, your time would be far better spent behind your rifle.
One of my friends is a Scottish farmer running an owned 550 acre farm in Ayrshire. He had the opportunity to buy another 700 acres adjoining his farm in Ayrshire, or another 500 acres South of the border. He took the 500 South of the border as he felt that anyone with more than 1000acres in Scotland was going to be in the cross-hairs as a filthy capitalist landowner. That was just before Covid.
Now the SNP is in the dustbin and the Marxists in Westminster have effectively pre-ordained the expropriation of his land and assets upon his death. I wonder what he is thinking now?
I would imagine you could have heard a pin drop in the UK HQs of the big Ag Machinery manufacturers on Oct 31.
But Hey! Let's not fret. The countryside will be taken over by big companies looking for carbon off-set. They know everything there is to know about sympathetic land management. They have every intention of looking after impoverished tenants in leaky cottages with Ag ties. They are really good at holding rural communities together and helping Old George's widow when she can't manage the rent. We have nothing to fear...Mrs Reeves says so.
The really funny bit is that the farmers and landowners will have to sell the land -no point selling a part as the remaining chunk is even less viable than it was before the sale- to pay the 20% IHT. Don't forget the Capital Gains Tax. This would leave them with about 42p in the pound after conveyancing fees +VAT and all the other lovely stuff nobody thinks about. The companies that buy the land will probably be paying tax in Switzerland!
Why are the small businesses and FSB/CBI not screaming blue murder? If you are a brickie/sparky/plumber/scaffolder/tyre shop owner/engineer etc., and own your own buildings, yards and a few vehicles, you are in the same spot as the farmers. I don't think they have worked it out. I think the trade associations are asleep. I expect that they and their membership do not see IHT as a small businessman's problem. After all, IHT was always a disease of the rich until Oct 31.
The real point to my maniacal, foam-flecked, right-wing rant (and for which I apologise in advance) is that this is going to change the countryside for ever. It will happen inside a single generation.
Can you imagine ringing the offices of any of the charming, noble-hearted land agency firms, after the sale of the land, to ask if the publicly quoted chemical / cosmetic / energy companies, banks or supermarkets that bought it (take your pick of any of those sorts of companies, they are all as nice as each other) wouldn't mind allowing you to continue controlling deer on their land? "Would you mind me beating out the corner of your wood for the farm shoot? It's only once a month in the Winter".
The Countryside Alliance, BASC, BDS, GCWT ought to be bellowing about this. They should be teaming up with the farmers, CBI and FSB and dragging the Government to the table.
I think they're all a tad busy trying to work out how to convince us they have done a good job on lead shot and that it was not a sell-out after all.
We are about to experience the rare privilege of watching all of our worst fears being realised and our warning calls proven correct. We, like Cassandra before us, are cursed by Apollo. We can read the future, but no-one wants to listen. Labour will tell everyone that they have improved things. They, like the SNP, have smashed the fiendish Upper Classes and chased them off the land for the benefit of "THE PEOPLE"! "What wicked devils they were". "They kept slaves too, you know".
It is a shame "THE PEOPLE" cannot tell their Arris from their humero-ulnar joint on such topics. They wouldn't care if they could. They're all happily watching Dancing on Ice.
The terrifying thing is that I still, even now, hear these sweet, kindly people saying "They clearly don't understand what they are doing". Really? So you don't believe that this is a carefully thought out land grab? You think someone in Whitehall has made an error of judgement?
Depressing stuff. We'd all be better off in Russia.
Spear Chucker
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Do you mean this chap?
BrewDog owner considers delaying marriage to TV star to max-out tax relief
Beer tycoon faces hefty bill for investment in fiancée’s businessNoah EastwoodMoney Reporter
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17 December 2024 6:20pm GMT
BrewDog co-founder, James Watt, is considering delaying his marriage to Georgia Toffolo, reality television star, to avoid missing out on valuable tax reliefs.
The beer tycoon posted on LinkedIn on Tuesday announcing he received “bombshell” advice that he faces a tax bill for his investment in Ms Toffolo’s dog food business if it falls within three years of their betrothal.
He consulted users on the professional social network whether he should “delay the wedding for three years and lock in the tax relief” or “forgo the tax break and marry Georgia in 2025”.
His public quandary relates to the enterprise investment scheme, which supports start up firms by offering income tax relief of up to 30pc to investors, up to a maximum of £2m.
“If I marry Georgia within three years of investing, I become a ‘connected person’ under HMRC rules, and I lose the [enterprise investment scheme] tax relief,” he said.
Mr Watt asked followers to vote on two options, either: “Love always wins – take the tax relief hit” or “true love can wait for three years – secure the relief”.
Niiiice!
Spear Chucker
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Fully agreed.
Not what I was thinking about, thought he bought and estate for tax ppurposes.Do you mean this chap?
BrewDog owner considers delaying marriage to TV star to max-out tax relief
Beer tycoon faces hefty bill for investment in fiancée’s business
Noah EastwoodMoney Reporter
Related Topics
17 December 2024 6:20pm GMT
BrewDog co-founder, James Watt, is considering delaying his marriage to Georgia Toffolo, reality television star, to avoid missing out on valuable tax reliefs.
The beer tycoon posted on LinkedIn on Tuesday announcing he received “bombshell” advice that he faces a tax bill for his investment in Ms Toffolo’s dog food business if it falls within three years of their betrothal.
He consulted users on the professional social network whether he should “delay the wedding for three years and lock in the tax relief” or “forgo the tax break and marry Georgia in 2025”.
His public quandary relates to the enterprise investment scheme, which supports start up firms by offering income tax relief of up to 30pc to investors, up to a maximum of £2m.
“If I marry Georgia within three years of investing, I become a ‘connected person’ under HMRC rules, and I lose the [enterprise investment scheme] tax relief,” he said.
Mr Watt asked followers to vote on two options, either: “Love always wins – take the tax relief hit” or “true love can wait for three years – secure the relief”.
Niiiice!
Malxwal
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He's widely regarded as a piece of s*it, I don't think that's a secret.Do you mean this chap?
BrewDog owner considers delaying marriage to TV star to max-out tax relief
Beer tycoon faces hefty bill for investment in fiancée’s business
Noah EastwoodMoney Reporter
Related Topics
17 December 2024 6:20pm GMT
BrewDog co-founder, James Watt, is considering delaying his marriage to Georgia Toffolo, reality television star, to avoid missing out on valuable tax reliefs.
The beer tycoon posted on LinkedIn on Tuesday announcing he received “bombshell” advice that he faces a tax bill for his investment in Ms Toffolo’s dog food business if it falls within three years of their betrothal.
He consulted users on the professional social network whether he should “delay the wedding for three years and lock in the tax relief” or “forgo the tax break and marry Georgia in 2025”.
His public quandary relates to the enterprise investment scheme, which supports start up firms by offering income tax relief of up to 30pc to investors, up to a maximum of £2m.
“If I marry Georgia within three years of investing, I become a ‘connected person’ under HMRC rules, and I lose the [enterprise investment scheme] tax relief,” he said.
Mr Watt asked followers to vote on two options, either: “Love always wins – take the tax relief hit” or “true love can wait for three years – secure the relief”.
Niiiice!
Spear Chucker
Well-Known Member
Precisely my point...can we trust our natural capital with people of this calibre? If not, why will the Govt?
Because they are funded by these ghastly people.
Admonished the Lady of the house for bringing that brand into the house, .................. still, it holds a nice head for canned stuff though.
bally
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yep and they look like, Sorry and act like pantomime characters,
I see Brew Dog is hemorrhaging outlets, if they loose some festivals and stadiums they reckon they will be history.Do you mean this chap?
BrewDog owner considers delaying marriage to TV star to max-out tax relief
Beer tycoon faces hefty bill for investment in fiancée’s business
Noah EastwoodMoney Reporter
Related Topics
17 December 2024 6:20pm GMT
BrewDog co-founder, James Watt, is considering delaying his marriage to Georgia Toffolo, reality television star, to avoid missing out on valuable tax reliefs.
The beer tycoon posted on LinkedIn on Tuesday announcing he received “bombshell” advice that he faces a tax bill for his investment in Ms Toffolo’s dog food business if it falls within three years of their betrothal.
He consulted users on the professional social network whether he should “delay the wedding for three years and lock in the tax relief” or “forgo the tax break and marry Georgia in 2025”.
His public quandary relates to the enterprise investment scheme, which supports start up firms by offering income tax relief of up to 30pc to investors, up to a maximum of £2m.
“If I marry Georgia within three years of investing, I become a ‘connected person’ under HMRC rules, and I lose the [enterprise investment scheme] tax relief,” he said.
Mr Watt asked followers to vote on two options, either: “Love always wins – take the tax relief hit” or “true love can wait for three years – secure the relief”.
Niiiice!
Shame.
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