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- Thread starter Jeffo
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No org should have ever played the insurance game , it biting them in the rear end now the truth is out about case selection !
I have not renewed and i wont I just did not like the way most orgs are doing things on the whole ( truth is a good home / personal liability ) covers you or you can add it .
Think things have come to the head now and perhaps its time , lets be fair with the current bunch of loonies and Labour we likely need one real big Org ( insurance company ) that simply Fights for UK sportsmen / women through (shooting and other sports) for fault and no fault , loss or damage to all your kit
I have not renewed and i wont I just did not like the way most orgs are doing things on the whole ( truth is a good home / personal liability ) covers you or you can add it .
Think things have come to the head now and perhaps its time , lets be fair with the current bunch of loonies and Labour we likely need one real big Org ( insurance company ) that simply Fights for UK sportsmen / women through (shooting and other sports) for fault and no fault , loss or damage to all your kit
I am with CPSA. They cover ALL shooting activities not just clay pigeon AND include legal cover against refusal to renew, or revocation, of SGC.
Are you a member of any other orgs? CPSA/BDS/NRA?
My nra membership covers all my shooting needs.
Grannysmith
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I looked at the wording and it appeared to me that the legal cover did not cover section 1 firearms license issues, Are you sure they cover this?
Fn5
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I never even thought of that, i'm thinking that i may bin off my BASC membership now!
Just s2.
Conor O'Gorman
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The following two articles may help:
Fighting your corner on firearms
Gareth Dockerty discusses the legal support available to BASC members to contest firearms cases.
basc.org.uk
Cutting through the insurance jargon
Gareth Dockerty explains why BASC's insurance is the market leader, and what that means for you as a result.
basc.org.uk
MAH
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Very interesting, there some subtle points i had not considered before and IMHO, i agree, I'd rather BASC decide which case is worth defending, rather than an anonymous insurance company
Thank you.
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Whitefront
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How often has the CPSA won a shotgun licencing case in court on behalf of a member? When I asked them a while ago they couldn't cite a single one - though they must have some success stories, surely?
Maybe they've not needed to go to court and the threat of their doing so has been enough. One might as well else ask why we bother to have a strategic nuclear Trident submarine fleet as we have never won a war using it.
But whatever else you won't find the signature of anyone from the CPSA on that February 2020 letter calling for an end to lead shot that BASC authored. So for that reason they get my money and not BASC
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Koenig
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I’ve just taken out Side by Side insurance at just under £30 a year on the recommendation of several friends. Nobody’s had to use them yet ((and hopefully we will never have to) but for £30 I thought it something worth having. CPSA only cover S2 and I don’t even really know what the BASC ‘fighting fund’ is let alone what it covers. Best to make your own arrangements in the current climate.
Conor O'Gorman
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There was no call to end lead shot, there is a voluntary transition away from lead shot for live quarry shooting, which continues. Meanwhile BASC has been fighting lead bans, including arguing successfully against HSE proposals to ban lead airgun pellets, lead bullets for target shooting, and lead bullets for live quarry shooting for smaller calibres.
Conor O'Gorman
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BASC’s Fighting Fund is available to help individual members, in a similar way to the previous Legal Expenses Insurance. We feel this option is more pragmatic and cost effective.
Each case brought forwards is taken on its individual merits, however we are broadly looking for:
- A case that has a likelihood of winning (the previous LEI did not fund cases unlikely to succeed)
- The member has been the victim of an injustice
- Does the case have wider implications? (while any judgment will be based on that specific case, if there is a point of principle, it can help set the correct tone for other firearms departments on future decision making)
It’s important to note that our decision-making team reserve the right to stop further funding of a case at any point. Any costs incurred by the member will be covered until that point, but it is only right that if circumstances change, we are not spending members’ money on a case that no longer has the prospect of a successful outcome.
BASC members also have free unlimited access to our dedicated firearms team, with a full-time specialist in each region. Every week we take around 140 firearms calls (that is more than 7,000 calls per year) from members, on top of our existing case work.
Our staff also build key relationships with the police firearms departments across each region, ensuring we work proactively rather than just reacting to members’ problems. The benefits of the firearms officers being regionally-based (rather than based from our BASC HQ) means we can cultivate better relationships, react quickly and attend meetings more efficiently at a reduced cost.
Fighting your corner on firearms
Gareth Dockerty discusses the legal support available to BASC members to contest firearms cases.
basc.org.uk
Out of interest, who came up with the suggestion?
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