the prowler
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My 243 is set for 75vmax and 80fox non toxic. Will be fine at that. Or use my other sako rifles.
243 for foxing when copper comes in?
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If the 243 does come under the ban I'll be getting a fast twist 22250 or 22creed for both roe and fox. Not shooting fox with lead free bullets, they ain't worth enough 
jthyttin
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While there are (currently) no light for caliber monometal offerings for 243, there are stuff like the Varmint Grenades (mentioned) and Ballistic Tip Lead Free (55gr 0.288 G1 BC).
Challenge might be to find middle weight all-purpose bullet. People currently using them (lead cored) seem to have deviated to designs that disintegrate quite fast and thoroughly.
Monometal that expands and in some cases sheds the petals, is going to act differently. And there doesn't seem to be these powdered core disintegrating non-lead bullets in this weight category (yet).
Challenge might be to find middle weight all-purpose bullet. People currently using them (lead cored) seem to have deviated to designs that disintegrate quite fast and thoroughly.
Monometal that expands and in some cases sheds the petals, is going to act differently. And there doesn't seem to be these powdered core disintegrating non-lead bullets in this weight category (yet).
I picked up some Virtus Merlin in .243 at the Shooting Show
with the top tip - "clean the barrel first, CLEAN it good"
with the top tip - "clean the barrel first, CLEAN it good"
Beg to differIf the 243 does come under the ban I'll be getting a fast twist 22250 or 22creed for both roe and fox. Not shooting fox with lead free bullets, they ain't worth enough
1 fallow pricket at 50p a kg = £20
1 fox that doesn’t eat x amount of poults or x amount of lambs is much better value!
Bavarianbrit
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Is this lead free ban rumour genuine? Or just a what if if comes into law?
I’d love to be able to, but I’d be looking. At butchering around 120 a yearI, like the large majority, don't get paid to shoot fox's. Therefore, yes, they ain't worth it
Edit to add - if youre getting 50p per kg on fallow, have you considered butchering them yourself? I'd be feeding it to the dogs rather than 50p per kg!
Almost worth a drive!£1.50 a kg in Essex
Clean the copper out ready for copper to go through?I picked up some Virtus Merlin in .243 at the Shooting Show
with the top tip - "clean the barrel first, CLEAN it good"
Copper to lead cast needs a good clean for best accuracy, cup and core bullets only have copper in contact with the barrel so seems duff advice to me!
It is in the motions already, but probably not a priority.
Somethings in the water
A lot of manufacturers are providing mostly fast twist rifles currently.
That's more likely with the modern use of long for calibre high BC bullets as apose to anything else.
We have a special offer on 75gr Peregrine VLR4s at the moment - £25/50
They run over 3750fps in a 20" .243 and are devastating at higher velocity on any game
They run over 3750fps in a 20" .243 and are devastating at higher velocity on any game
Are these fragmenting or designed to retain their weight?
I believe this bullet
Suitable for use in all lead-free zones or shooting ranges that require non-magnetic bullets, the Ballistic Tip Lead-Free™ (BTLF) bullet is everything that varmint and predator hunters expect from a Ballistic Tip®, in a lead-free design. At the heart of the BTLF bullet is Nosler’s exclusive Fragmenting Copper Core Technology™, which when initiated by its metallic-colored polymer tip (color coded by caliber) upon impact, exhibits rapid expansion for absolute displacement of the target. The ultra-thin copper jacket and flat base design assures structural integrity in flight and bench-rest accuracy at ultra-high velocities. Engineered for the same quality and performance that the Ballistic Tip® has made famous for over 25 years, the BTLF bullet, combines immediate and complete fragmentation with match grade accuracy for the ultimate lead-free varmint bullet.
I am using the same bullet in 223/53gr. It is very acurate. I shot approximately 20 foxes whit it and all of them fell at spot.
I would saj that it is basically non-lead version of V-max or Nosler Varmageddon lead bullets.
I wouldn't shoot anything other than predators with it.
Damage to meat is probably significant and there might be no exit at larger animals.
I believe this is exactly what you are looking for.
Suitable for use in all lead-free zones or shooting ranges that require non-magnetic bullets, the Ballistic Tip Lead-Free™ (BTLF) bullet is everything that varmint and predator hunters expect from a Ballistic Tip®, in a lead-free design. At the heart of the BTLF bullet is Nosler’s exclusive Fragmenting Copper Core Technology™, which when initiated by its metallic-colored polymer tip (color coded by caliber) upon impact, exhibits rapid expansion for absolute displacement of the target. The ultra-thin copper jacket and flat base design assures structural integrity in flight and bench-rest accuracy at ultra-high velocities. Engineered for the same quality and performance that the Ballistic Tip® has made famous for over 25 years, the BTLF bullet, combines immediate and complete fragmentation with match grade accuracy for the ultimate lead-free varmint bullet.
I am using the same bullet in 223/53gr. It is very acurate. I shot approximately 20 foxes whit it and all of them fell at spot.
I would saj that it is basically non-lead version of V-max or Nosler Varmageddon lead bullets.
I wouldn't shoot anything other than predators with it.
Damage to meat is probably significant and there might be no exit at larger animals.
jthyttin
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Do you mean 50gr BT Lead Free or something like 53gr Varmageddon Tipped (that has lead core)?
Few years ago I moved from 40gr Varmageddon Tipped to 53gr, to get some extra penetration since raccoon dogs and occasional badger are more heavily built / have extra body fat compared to fox. There's basically no downside to replace 40gr varmint bullets with 53gr Varmageddon or V-Max in 223, and even less so in faster 22cal as long as you can stabilize them.
Yes, my mistake.
Somehow I forgot, that BTLF in .224 is 50gr.
22 Caliber 50gr Ballistic Tip Lead Free (100ct)
22 Caliber 50gr Ballistic Tip® Lead Free NOTE: Requires a Minimum 1-12" Twist
www.nosler.com
This is the one.
Cheers
Deerstalker6
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Winchester does a 243 55gr Zinc core bullet load of their Varmint X ammo range and is available in the UK,
3910 fps on their provided figures toasty barrel if you were using that daily for foxes and vermin
winchester.com
3910 fps on their provided figures toasty barrel if you were using that daily for foxes and vermin
X243PLF | Winchester Ammunition
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