Football v’s certificate cost
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Could be the start of a slippery slope? Highway policing paid for by some sort of road user tax? And on it goes.
If it was based on mileage, and zoned to different regions, that would make perfect sense.
I can see the logic in policing being paid for by the polluter as the MET man put it. I just can't see where that ends. Does a person convicted of a crime then become liable for costs?
nun_hunter
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Mileage makes sense but the zones would be difficult. Areas with few residents but heavy traffic would end up paying disproportionately unless you start monitoring where people go on every journey.
VEL should be done away with and added to the price of fuel. Big engine but few miles you pay less than a small engine doing 50k a year plus visiting vehicles (HGVs mainly) contribute for the use of the roads if they fuel here.
nun_hunter
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My understanding of the current set up is that if the event itself requires additional police then they do pay for what they need at the event. Where it falls down is they don't pay for the associated additional police required to police outside the event, such as public order in the surrounding town where fans are drinking or travelling through.
Any cost should only be for additional policing requirements above what would normally be present at that day and time.
In my day (....during the war....) sporting fixtures which needed a police presence had to pay for those officers. They were usually volunteers on rest days, so they had to pay the going rate for each officer at double time. Having said that, it only applied to officers deployed in the grounds. As an example, my local rugby league club (not a super league club) would fork out for a couple of officers for the duration of the match. Although, like many football and rugby clubs, they soon discovered that using their own staff wearing a dayglow jacket were much cheaper. Indeed some were volunteers, no doubt getting to see the games as their only recompense. Which is why on old football games, you'll see bobbies in helmets around the pitch, but latterly, only stewards.
So I guess the payment they are talking about levying will be for any officers outside the grounds, deployed for public order and traffic control purposes. Which I suspect will be a pretty big bone of contention. No doubt the sports clubs will argue that anything outside their premises isn't their responsibility and even if they do have to contribute, they'll want a say in how many officers are used, in effect wanting a say in operational matters usually the sole remit of the police.
Many a slip 'twixt cup and lip.
So I guess the payment they are talking about levying will be for any officers outside the grounds, deployed for public order and traffic control purposes. Which I suspect will be a pretty big bone of contention. No doubt the sports clubs will argue that anything outside their premises isn't their responsibility and even if they do have to contribute, they'll want a say in how many officers are used, in effect wanting a say in operational matters usually the sole remit of the police.
Many a slip 'twixt cup and lip.
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