Which Secondhand Pickup?

[MarinePMI]

Don't ask awkward questions!
I just hitch up, load up, and go!
The vehicle is an Isuzu with a 1.9 "lawnmower engine".
Trailer is a twin axle, weighing 1,700kg unladen.
50 lambs weigh 35-40kg each.
Regularly doing journeys of 300+ miles.

This ^^^^

Most people in the 3rd world never even look at the posted "safe towing capacity" label inside the door jamb. They just learn what the vehicle can handle and what it can't. Obviously terrain and trailer loading matter (with many not knowing how to properly load a trailer).

 

[VSS]

This ^^^^

Most people in the 3rd world never even look at the posted "safe towing capacity" label inside the door jamb. They just learn what the vehicle can handle and what it can't. Obviously terrain and trailer loading matter (with many not knowing how to properly load a trailer).

Yes, trailer loading matters a lot.
Which I'd why I always use dividing gates within a livestock trailer when travelling any distance.

 

[Feugh]

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This was parked outside of the workshop today. 160k, 4.5 v8 diesel and 40k NZD.

That’s cool! I’ve seen quite a few like that in NZ. Vehicles are cheaper, fuel is cheaper, insurance is much cheaper, hunting clothing is cheaper and generally better but most other things seem to be more expensive than the UK.

 

[willowbank]

Yes, trailer loading matters a lot.
Which I'd why I always use dividing gates within a livestock trailer when travelling any distance.

So true... how many a caravan seen going up the motorway dragging its ar*se and snaking or conversely the towing vehicle down on its suspension due to incorrect loading leading to an excessive nose weight.
Both scenarios lead to dangerous handling if the towing vehicle is a lightweight.
Towed a caravan for a great number of years and learnt the hard way.

WB

 

[udderlyoffroad]

Most people in the 3rd world never even look at the posted "safe towing capacity" label inside the door jamb.

Despite what you see on the news, the UK hasn't quite descended into third world status...yet. And cops are really hot on overloaded 'rigs' in the UK, so you do need to be careful, even if the manufacturers give themselves some breathing room when it comes to rated capacities. Oh and for the record a lot of Euro spec vehicles, the plate is under the 'hood' not in the door jamb...

 

[VSS]

So true... how many a caravan seen going up the motorway dragging its ar*se and snaking or conversely the towing vehicle down on its suspension due to incorrect loading leading to an excessive nose weight.
Both scenarios lead to dangerous handling if the towing vehicle is a lightweight.
Towed a caravan for a great number of years and learnt the hard way.

WB

Mostly it's excessive nose weight that causes "snaking", rather than overloading at the rear.

 

[Dave_45]

KGM Musso seem to have gotten better


There’s a good warranty with them and if you ask they will treat the chassis for free, but strangely if you don’t ask they won’t just do it

 

[JTO]

It would be interesting to know which comments come from. (1) People who are using them for their own business use, (2) people who have them supplied by their employer, not their own limited company, (3) people who buy them for personal use, using their own money.

 

[VSS]

1&3

 

[MarinePMI]

It would be interesting to know which comments come from. (1) People who are using them for their own business use, (2) people who have them supplied by their employer, not their own limited company, (3) people who buy them for personal use, using their own money.

1 and 3 as well (though #1 was quite some time ago)

 

[VSS]

1 and 3 as well (though #1 was quite some time ago)

1 and 3 for me are the same vehicle

 

[udderlyoffroad]

Strictly 3 so I went secondhand & ate the VAT - albeit in the before times prior to Covid silliness. No way I could afford to now.

 

[Rafter]

That’s cool! I’ve seen quite a few like that in NZ. Vehicles are cheaper, fuel is cheaper, insurance is much cheaper, hunting clothing is cheaper and generally better but most other things seem to be more expensive than the UK.

That's mostly right - but having lived all over the world I'm happy to be here, and I'll deal with any additional costs by making more money. Having thousands of miles of ocean between us and the unwashed masses is worth paying a bit extra for.

 

[Camdig]

I own a 20 plate Dmax for my business it tows a plant trailer regularly and is fine for the job, I also own a Mercedes Sprinter chassis cab its also a 2.0l engine, its the best towing vehicle I have ever had pulls diggers about for fun.
I use both these vehicles weekly towing various weights the Isuzu is great and comfortable but the Sprinter just has the edge on the towing front but not ideal for country pursuits.

 

[JH83]

A few weeks ago I had my lovely 64 plate Hilux written off by a dimwit on a country lane, so I was out for a new’un.

Truth of the matter is that both my hiluxes, a 61 plate and the 64 that was trashed, both had crossmembers welded to pass MOT and were rather scabby underneath despite under sealing. They are lovely trucks though, both 3.0l Invincibles. If you could find a clean one and get it sealed that’s best case scenario.

I have gone D’Max. So far, very good, and by god you get more for your money than Hilux. They are quite agricultural though, but the 2.5l pulls very well.

No level of insanity would make me go for a ford. Ours at work the wet belt snapped under 40k necessitating a new engine. This is not uncommon, it’s a plain horrible design. Isuzu are on a chain, and have less corrosion issues than Toyota which is what pushed me towards them.

 

[skypie]

I like my 2017 Nissan navara other than the turbo leaks oil on the drive way.

 

[jasonmillar]

There was a thread a couple of years ago but restarting.

Have a 2012 Range Rover that is a brilliant drive and has been utterly reliable, but at 140k miles (130k by me) it's getting expensive to maintain as a daily car. Will keep it for comfortable long runs but want a daily user. Can put a pick up through business in Ireland where cars are bloody expensive. Need to tow, drive 2 hours to stalking, shift loads and be off-road, BUT for a fraction of the time - most will be on road so want a near SUV drive?

Looking at 2018-20 maybe 80k miles.

Navarro, Ranger, Ssanyong seem to be the list for mainly road, Hiluxl expensive and raw and Isuzu raw.......advice please?

Toyota

 

[jasonmillar]

I like my 2017 Nissan navara other than the turbo leaks oil on the drive way.

Rot

 

[skypie]

Very conservative

Rot

 

[jasonmillar]

Very conservative

Rot for fun navara chassis