what calibre would you reccommend for 1000 yard shooting? advice?

Try a 6.5mm x 55. Will need 1 in 12 twist barrel. You will have less bullet drop than a .308. Use 140 grain moly coated tips as the boat tail helps stabilisation at that range. try vit 160 or 165 powder towards top end of load charts (see manufacture warnings and max loads). Once ranged correctly you can achieve consistant v bulls. If not loading norma do an expensive but very consistant long distance target round. Just some ideas for you.
 
Depends what you intend shooting at 1000yd - I assume you will be shooting at targets only!! In which case any of the modern commonly used firearms will suffice. This gives you a lot to choose from. You might want to have a wide range of bullets to use in which case (no pun intended) the .30 calibres (.308 30-06 303 British etc.) are capable of covering 1000yds.
If you want to try one of the "wildcats" try the flat shooting 25-06. although depending on your bullet weight and load, they might be too fast for any Club range. Club ranges will have range safety limits and if you want to shoot your choice of calibre will be dependant in some instances on these limits.
Perhaps you might approach a Shooting Club with a 1000m range and ask if you can try one of their members rifles - this might mean a trip to Bisley or if you are in Wales Sennybridge. Visit the NRA Bisley website there are Club websites you can visit and get details.
 
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A 300 WIn Mag? You must enjoy recoil. :)

We shoot on Stickledown twice a year, for two days in April and two days in September, 12 hours of shooting each time. ('We' being Teesside Rifle & Pistol Club, of which I have the dubious honour of being Secretary. http://www.teessideshooters.org.uk) We shoot there for fun, not competing in anything. Our members use everything from a Winchester M70V .243 Win (badly affected by wind), Sako 75 Varmint in 6.5x55, .303 No 4s, 7.62 Parker-Hale 1200TX, Sako TRG in .308, Dragunov (uses same bullets as .303 No 4), and much else.

The most accurate rifles are without doubt two custom rifles built by Dave Folwell both chambered for 6.5x47 Lapua, an astonishingly accurate cartridge. Not big heavy guns but nonetheless, low recoil. But these rifles would shoot well regardless of the cartridge choice. Then there are the scoped TRGs and AIs. But not to forget the bog standard iron sighted Parker-Hale 1200TX which, in still air, shoots to 1.5 MOA at 1,000 yards Due to the gun's weight, recoil is acceptable even by smaller shooters. The load is nothing fancy: 168gr Hornady BTHP #30501 at an estimated 2700fps.

The point is this. You don't need a powder-gobblin' barrel-wearin' hard-kickin' sooper magnum to shoot accurately at 1,000 yards, even with side winds. Nor do you need an expensive custom rifle. But you do need something more than a 223. :-D

-JMS

In a well fit rifle I haven't found the 300 WM to kick too badly. I do like the selection of heavy, high BC bullets. ~Muir
 
In the recent European F-Class championships 7 out of the top ten used a 7mm WSM of some kind (7mm rsaum, 7-270 WSM) and the other three used .284's so all 7mm,s of some kind.
 
Please consider the 243 AckleyImproved with a 26" barrel. It will reach out their and remain supersonic to 1000 yards no probs...........
 
Any 7mm with a fast twist barrel; length 28 - 32". 284Win is easy to load, and quite widely used in F Class Open. This also saves having to buy a magnum bolt-face action.

The 6.5mm are possible, but all 65,mm bullets are trounced by the 7mm 180gr bullets.

Or a 308W with a long barrel; longer the better. The big decision is whether to use 155gr bullets, or whether to use the heavyweights (>200gr); which affects the choice of twist rate. This could then be used for FTR competition, too.

If you want a rifle built, the go to Mik Maksimovich at Dolphin Gun in Lincolnshire. He builds my F-Class guns, and he really knows his stuff.
 
Just curious, I have read this entire thread with interest as I am considering purchasing a 30.06. WIth the very slightly better ballistic data for the alt6 versus the .308, can I ask more knowledgeable members to suggest why they think the 30.06 has not been mentioned more on this thread? If the .308 is worthy of mention on a 1000yd thread, why isn't the 30.06?
I have always loved the 30.06 cartridge but have to choose now between 308 and 06, and my love of the 06 as a reloading cartridge with so many options, especially on the heavier bullets (180+) is what is guiding me, despite the popularity of .308. I have never gone with the flow just for the sake of going with the flow, I tend to prefer something a bit different than the majority. Its not a must, but just my preference.
The rifle would be used for stalking as well as target shooting at various ranges out to 1000yd possibly, although its bread and butter job will be stalking so I am not going down the nutty splitting hairs target route. I just want a nice solid heavy rifle for stalking and some enjoyment on a range from time to time. Appreciate any comments
 
Thanks, I am bad enough at making decisions without more choices thrown in!!! Interesting that you chose 30.06 for hunting and LR combination. I was half expecting a rip roar of .308 fans. I certainly love the .308, nowt against it at all, I just have a sort of romance with the 30.06, the history behind it, the amount of loading data and loading combinations etc. I probably should have mentioned that I intend to reload for it, which does make a difference I suppose. Also if I got a chance to hunt piggies which i might, the heavier load capabilities might give the 06 a slight advantage, well there is might about it looking at the figures, although I am sure .308 would have no problem on boar. I love the long action rifles, also love the .308 and may apply for one as a backup stalking rifle later if I go for alt6 first.

Thanks again
 
I don't know much about Ackley stuff, i have read a little about it but don't fully understand it. Is it a different calibre as far as licensing goes? Or is it just another type within 30.06 bracket which I could look for and buy under a slot for 30.06?
Thanks
 
I don't know much about Ackley stuff, i have read a little about it but don't fully understand it. Is it a different calibre as far as licensing goes? Or is it just another type within 30.06 bracket which I could look for and buy under a slot for 30.06?
Thanks

Can't see why not. Even tho its ackley improved its still a 30/06 at the end of the day.
 
30.06 is the caliber so you can put it on your ticket , Ackley imp just applys to the case , its straighter sided and i think the shoulders are different , i dont understand how it works but my mate shoots one out to 2000yrds . have a look at his web site , specialist rifle services , contact him and he will explain everything in detail
 
Thanks for that. I did some reading up on the AI 30.06 cartridge. Yes as you say its just a slightly improved capacity case but it doesn't add very much, maybe 50FPS which isn't enough for me to take on the extra hassle and cost really. Did you say 2000 Yards?! Seriously?! Must be more than a few yards drop on that!
 
Don't make life complicated or expensive... you don't need exotic or unusual calibres with all the headaches that brings... World champ F/TR shooters use .308 out to 1k and .308 makes for a useable rifle in the field too should you need it to.

You also don't need hot loads... I limit my MV to 2,600fps with SMK HPBT 175gn after reading Bryan Litz'z research and experience, as well as a world champ he is also arguably the worlds #1 ballastician!

Very accurate out to 1,000yds... you just don't need anything more..
 
30.06 is the caliber so you can put it on your ticket , Ackley imp just applys to the case , its straighter sided and i think the shoulders are different , i dont understand how it works but my mate shoots one out to 2000yrds . have a look at his web site , specialist rifle services , contact him and he will explain everything in detail

The shoulders are at 40 degrees and truly, the gain is hardly worthy the efforts. I have one and it gains nothing over the standard 30-06. The only reason I keep it is because the rifle is a fine piece of work that someone had rechambered without marking the barrel. If I'd seen it was a 30-06 IMP I'd have passed on it...~Muir
 
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