Air rifles in a "junk shop"?

[Trickyd66]

Popped into a junk shop today (always on the lookout for bargains)
One section had about half a dozen over priced air rifles and pistols .
Can these be sold by a non RFD?

What was more concerning, was that to see what was there I could have cocked and loaded them all if I had a few .177 pellets in my pocket!

 

[Trickyd66]

Different shop to where I picked up the BDS book

 

[enfieldspares]

The wording is such that pre-1939 air weapons are exempt from a person selling them "by way of trade or business" to have an air weapons RFD and the shop may indeed anyway have such. Not all RFDs are authorised for s1 and/or s2 just as not all RFDs are authorised for s5.

 

[Trickyd66]

Nothing pre 1939 in there.. all 1980 or newer. One of the pistols was a bsa scorpion, one multi mag colt soda stream cartridge pistol.?

 

[Tikkat1x]

Can these be sold by a non RFD?

the clue is in the title, air rifles are not firearms, and i could go into any gun shop with a pocket full of cartridges or bullets and handle a shotgun or a rifle,

 

[Trickyd66]

the clue is in the title, air rifles are not firearms, and i could go into any gun shop with a pocket full of cartridges or bullets and handle a shotgun or a rifle,

Look at the law ref firearms...

 

[Tikkat1x]

im ok thanks

 

[Trickyd66]

the clue is in the title, air rifles are not firearms, and i could go into any gun shop with a pocket full of cartridges or bullets and handle a shotgun or a rifle,

Sorry, could have worded that better! Should you be prohibited under section 21 of the firearms act, you are not even allowed to be in possession of an air rifle or air rifle ammunition (pellets)

 

[Tikkat1x]

im lost now mate, all im going on is if i had an air rifle, i wouldnt need a license to own it, or sell it,

 

[Trickyd66]

im lost now mate, all im going on is if i had an air rifle, i wouldnt need a license to own it, or sell it,

As a private seller, you can.
If it's in your shop you can't (I think!)

 

[Greenmist]

If it's in your shop you can't (I think!)

2007 VCR act

 

[VSS]

Can still buy air rifles in our local toy shop.
I believe the owner does have to be an rfd, but I'm not certain about that. Just a vague recollection of a conversation I had with him some years ago.

 

[Trickyd66]

Register as a firearms dealer - GOV.UK

You must register with the police if you manufacture, sell or transfer shotguns, firearms or ammunition or are involved in the repairing, testing or proving of them

www.gov.uk

 

[VSS]

Register as a firearms dealer - GOV.UK

You must register with the police if you manufacture, sell or transfer shotguns, firearms or ammunition or are involved in the repairing, testing or proving of them

www.gov.uk

There's your answer then.
Presumably the junk shop owner is an rfd.

 

[8x57]

Presumably the junk shop owner is an rfd.

Yes of course!
I think we've talked about this previously.

 

[VSS]

Yes of course!
I think we've talked about this previously.

You could always just ask him.

 

[25 Sharps]

the clue is in the title, air rifles are not firearms, and i could go into any gun shop with a pocket full of cartridges or bullets and handle a shotgun or a rifle,

Air rifles are legally classed as firearms but those below the energy limits do not require a licence to possess.

 

[hogey]

Air rifles are legally classed as firearms but those below the energy limits do not require a licence to possess.

Do they not in Scotland now though ?

 

[25 Sharps]

Do they not in Scotland now though ?

They do, but the OP is in southern England.

 

[maxtich]

What about the ones on sale at various gun fairs.. especially Kenton?